Votes for billionaires, shocked when billionaires act like billionaires

Turns out racism trumps all.

George W was awful to the military and veterans get screwed by republicans all the time. Yet they love republicans and vote for them in droves. People don’t make sense.

This dude doesn't mention Trump or Republicans once during the entire video. I wouldn't be surprised at all if somehow he blames this on the previous administration. I've already had multiple conversations blaming any adverse effects from Trump's decisions on Biden and the Democrats in a similar fashion.

Why does America subsidize so much corn?

USDA?

My impression from the video is that all he is taking from this situation is “government bad.”

Commodity crops prices often trend the inverse of the economy. The reason is simple; It is highly dependent on the export market.

When overall economy is strong, the dollar is strong versus other currencies. This makes importing easier and exporting harder. So prices for commodities in the U.S. fall.

When the overall economy is weak the dollar falls in value. This makes importing harder but exporting much easier. Prices for commodities rise rapidly and farmers make more gross money.

Even through they are making more gross income their cost skyrocket so their net returns are in general pretty average.

Farmers tend to make the most money when the economy is in recovery mode and commodity prices are still higher but input costs fall.

So here is the vicious cycle we have fallen into. Republicans get into power and crash the economy. When it crashes, farmers get high prices but low returns. Democrats come in, repair the economy but by the time elections come around, farmers have not made any money for a year or two. Rinse and repeat.

Now the orange moron adds a bit of a twist to it. Trade war: This can fuck the farmer up really bad as buyers are willing to pay a modest premium to minimize the impact of an unreliable trading partner. It reduces both the volume moved and prices offered from other countries for years.

First time?

I sadly suspect that this is the type of voter who will continue to blame anyone and everyone else for the problems they triggered themselves.

Cognitive dissonance has well and truly set in.

I think fundamentally this is the underlying issue with the current situation in the USA. I'm not sure what fixing it looks like.

This isn't something that started in November last year, it's been brewing for decades, perhaps even longer, it's that right now it's burst out like an infected boil and become visible for the whole planet to see. It's why I used triggered, not caused. I think it's much, much deeper than the latest election.

Don't get me wrong, there's plenty of people left who don't think like this, but they are losing ground fast as their democracy is demolished bit by bit by the billionaires.

Organising, protesting and actively fighting this appears to be where it's now at.

This is nothing new for Americans. This will go on for many more years, it might not change at all until the corpos do it for them.

Even after he loses his farm. Even after his friends and family cut him out of their lives. Even after he goes bankrupt from medical debt.

He will still vote exactly the same as he always does. It's the definition of a conservative: They don't change. Consequences be damned!

HA HA HA

These assholes would be living under a bridge because of GOP policies and they would still blame it on Dems, immigrants and gays.

Fuck them and their primitive ability to understand reality.

I wouldn't bet anything important on it. The lack of empathy endemic to the right means that every voter will have to experience their own life-changing betrayal directly affecting them.

For most of these people, there is no way to convince themselves to dig themselves out, we just have to wait until they keep digging and tunnel to the other side. A better wager would be that's going to take more time than Trump & Musk will need to gut the government and dismantle democracy.

These people are the common clay of the land.

Rural people generally on average mistrust city people. City person shows up one day and gives them riches beyond their wildest imaginations, two hundred dollars and a luxury import chocolate. Other city people say "don't trust these gifts, that guy is a known con artist". Rural people didn't grow up in an environment where scammers could just get away with it, cuz they'd get beat up by the other 80 people in the town that all knew them.

They don't have the defenses mechanism of skepticism built in from day 1. They often do not understand the difference between the law as written vs as intended, because strict interpretation of the rules is not required for a small society of people that all generally know teachers other to function.

Probably one of a few things.

• always voted R
• one or a few, policies matter to them more than anything (abortion, tax cuts etc.)
• likes the toxic traits (owning the libs, bigotry, pro America and fuck everyone else)
• fell for the neo-con lie that conservative = good economy = better for everyone
• fell for the "we're going to help the working man" Conservative lie

But most likely, imo, is that the average Joe is just way less politically engaged or aware, then you and your peers. They don't see all the bullshit, bigotry, obvious lies, the way R policies will fuck them over. They just know times are tough, prices are high and "right wing dude said he'd fix it".

Why they believe he was ever a successful businessman is beyond me...

The guy is a fucking rich kid moron.

hes a clown. the whole bread and circus thing.

I think it has to do with the conservative tendency to see a natural hierarchy to humanity.

(begin sarcasm)

Obviously, rando leopard victim currently under discussion is a member of the upper echelon of that human hierarchy. They are confused by the same things as Trump, they hate the same people as him, and they see the same TrRuTh about the world as him.

Surely, those are enough "good people" attributes that any day now they will get swept along on the Trump train and will be out of the trailer and sitting on a golden shitter before you know it. He might even let them push the button that takes food stamps away from a brown skinned single mother!

Or, and hey let's be fair, maybe some of them are smarter than that. They know that no Aryan Dividends are coming their way. But they have the integrity to tough it out while the other "good" people in charge spend all their energy hurting the subhuman garbage that deserves it most. That is obviously more important than education or human rights or whatever the limp-wristed liberal cucks are crying about today.

The money is just part of the deal when you're one of the master race-- err, no, I mean when you're one of the good people, the REAL Americans. It's not like you have to be BORN already having the money or just win the lottery some other way, lol.

Because they don't think of themselves as the little guy. No matter how poor they are, they're always temporarily embarrassed millionaires.

I think people are reacting mainly emotionally (i.e. "I feel that this person can be trusted") rather than doing any meaningful level of political analysis and that the attraction of many for confident loudmouth politicians is in part a reaction to a couple of decades of being swindled by soft speaking slippery suits on both sides of the isle.

(Politically Aware people - which I imagine most of us here are - tend to expect from others similar levels of being well informed about Politics and thinking it to be important, when in reality most people do not think, care or are as well informed about politics anywhere as much as the Politically Aware)

These things come in cycles and we're back in the age when people are over-saturated with the "sophisticated misdirection and half-truth deceiver" type of swindler whilst not being innured to the "loud and brash liar" type of swindler, because the last couple of decades have been dominated in politics by the former kind of manipulator whilst the last time the latter type was dominant was almost a century ago.

That's my theory.

Same... I have always known Trump to be an idiot... literally the stereotypical kid whose Dad is ashamed of because he decided to clown around and never accomplished anything given all the opportunities

He is an open mysiginist and racist and the large number of closeted bigots in the US love him for it.

Except at this point, they are not even closeted anymore.

I have never understood why the “average joe” ever identified with Trump

A major reason for the vehement support the right receives is trying to control what people can say.

The left has itself to blame for its overreaching censorship in online spaces for why so many people feel more comfortable being part of the right.

You can't just tell the "average joe" that a man is a woman and vice-versa, then ban him for saying otherwise and expect him to stay on your side.

No he'd vote for Trump all over again tomorrow. He doesn't care how clearly bad this is for him, he's still better than black people, women, and Hispanics.

The problem is all of the innocent people who have to starve to death to teach them this lesson.

He probably blames Biden because the contract was signed under his administration.

But an administration comes up with a good deal for you, one that improves your life, and in this case your farm, and you vote for the other guy. I guess I'm not a gymnast.

They Will not

MAGAts can only learn the hard way.

The problem is, he's clearly not learning anything. The whole video is "see, the government sucks!", which is basically the Republican message.

It's depressing. One side campaigns on "government sucks", and then breaks the government. The people who see that don't say "hey, those guys broke the government" they think "hey, they're right, the government sucks, I should keep voting for them."

Learn? LEARN?! What in the last decade has made you think these people learn ANYTHING?

hating a kid that might be different is more important than his farm.

Won't stop him from crying on camera about losing his livelihood due to his own actions, and probably low-key blame democrats for letting it happen.. as these fucktards always do.

It’s all about having a scapegoat and playing on their overwhelming self-righteousness with he appearance of unfairness.

The trick is to twist the truth enough, highlight a scapegoat, and play up the unfairness to appeal to the self-righteous

• “I don’t have anything against you personally but it’s unfair for a man to play women’s sports”
• “I’m not racist but it’s unfair for someone to get special privileges because of their skin color”
• “I have nothing against women but it’s unfair someone gets promoted above me just because they are one”
• “I have nothing against non-Christians but it’s unfair that I can’t wish someone have a Merry Christmas”

I imagine they believe they’re in the right, and it’s an unfair situation that needs to be remedied, but that requires an awful lot of not paying attention to how they got there. It won’t affect them because they’re fair, right

I love that you can make a statement like that and people are ok with it now. I said similar last year about how I had no more empathy left for people in red states and was attacked about how bad a person I was and how intolerant. I think that this election may have changed some peoples' perspective on things.

Nah, we're also laughing at the non-voters and third-party voters. Even some of the Democratic voters are worthy of ridicule.

When this country was about empathy love and cooperation? Capitalism is not that!

This country is being destroyed because people chose hate

Hate was chosen for them by the rich and powerful.

We all bear part of the burden for why the rich and powerful are so rich and powerful; we made them that way and keep rewarding their greed.

They're eating shit so we have to smell their breath.

They're dragging us down with them.

Wonder who is the de-facto head of the government, who we elect every 4 years, and is a singular person, and has (and used) the executive power to defund all the programs.

Yeee, we might never know...

In four years, these same people will vote against their own interest again because "Trump said he would save my farm after this next election". While conveniently overlooking the fact that both parties will be offering to save their farm by that time, and only one of those will have actual solutions and won't have caused the problem in the first place.

Sunk cost fallacy. Also, admitting to having been wrong is hard. It's one of the core mechanisms cults use to ensure loyalty. The more embarrassing, absurd and shameful the accepted "truths" become, the harder it is to exit the cult.

FYP?

Honestly, maybe so the family doesn't see, while they can gather composure. A little bit of "men don't cry" and a little bit of "don't want the family to all have heart attacks before I know for sure"

It's a small room where you're usually alone?

It's big strong frame, imposing physique makes them feel respected, and it's supple, soft and warm seats make them feel loved. Why wouldn't you rant in your 80k emotional support vehicle?

You know the fucking answer to that as well as I do. They voted for hate and would do it again.

The guy blamed Bidens government and not Trump in his video so no. He'd probably vote the same.

The guy probably has a room temp IQ in °C, I'm surprised he managed to keep his farm for that long.

This is probably the 3rd time he's voted for Trump.

They do not learn from these moments. They will vote for whomever wishes to succeed Trump next time around because they can't escape the culture war. Trump voters are people whose entire identity is mixed up with being on the right side of the war.

Tom from myspace is the only millionaire/billionaire I aspire to be. Dude just noped out to enjoy the rest of his life.

I was speaking to my grandparents, who are from Iowa, about Elon Musk a short time before the elections. We were discussing how he isn't a good person and how the levels of greed it takes to become someone in his position prove that. They said something similar that opening quote, to which I responded, "It really makes you wonder why he always needs more, doesn't it?".

The discussion ended here.

Still a billionaire.

That's why I looked to Mastodon as a Twitter alternative and not Bluesky.

I was never at risk of siding with him on anything? Why would I?

Whoops they've mostly been outsourced. I guess you're homeless! Wait, that's illegal now . Go to jail. Heyy good news while in prison you get to work on your old farm again!

What factory? Not many of those around the US anymore. Amazon warehouse is more like it.

This isn't even a monkey's pawn kind of deal. They get nothing at all in return.

At least the devil delivers on mad guitar-playing skills before taking your soul.

I got banned from Hexbear for saying that. Apparently I’m a fascist for wanting Trump voters to get their just deserts.

They're the ones who keep voting for these policies that punish them. Can't reason with masochists.

We already do.

These idiots voted to give their struggling farms to the mega corps, sucks to suck.

Now if you want to talk about how it's unfair that the non-fascist farmers are caught up in this, they have my sympathy.

Yeah, I tried to vote in their best interests, if they also voted for their best interests this wouldn't be happening.

Will happily see them work for a factory farm if it means they end up voting for my rights next time, and not only their own interests.