Daily Discussion Thread: Sat 14 Oct 2023
Daily Discussion Thread: Sat 14 Oct 2023
Welcome to the Melbourne Community Daily Discussion Thread.
Daily Discussion Thread: Sat 14 Oct 2023
Welcome to the Melbourne Community Daily Discussion Thread.
This is a shit outcome. It's not surprising, but it's shit. To the Indigenous Australians amongst us: I'm sorry. I hope one day Australia will show you the respect and care you deserve.
Ultimately, I'm angry. Angry at this country, really. We need to be better than this.
Agreed. First Nations peoples should get the vote and the right to have elected representatives in all levels government. I just don't understand why people would vote no to that.
seriously, I thought I would be flamed for that post
If I had 400 million I would have spent it on educating First Nations people on how to use the power they have, to vote and stand for elected government. Government has the power to make policy and direct spending.
USE YOUR POWER.
Yeah I really just do not understand why it's a bad thing that our First Nations peoples can have more say when it comes to stuff related to them. Like I heard one wild thing was if the voice was majority yes, then First Nations peoples would kick every person out of their house.
First, what an absolutely wild assumption. Secondly, I mean that's what white colonisers did...
I’m really angry and sad. I’m angry and sad like I was when Australia voted in Morrison’s shit circus in 2019 over Bill Shorten‘s genuine reform alternative. Fear, ignorance, and a really nasty bubbling streak of racism.
I was hoping that there might have been a chance that it got through but it seems not to be.
It’s really sad to be honest that this is the outcome.
Looks like Victoria is the only state that might vote yes and even that’s not a given. I really thought this would be closer.
We ARE better than this. Let’s be clear, Australia has voted against Murdoch media in the past, but labor set this up to fail hard. Albo should resign. This will be spun as a win for the libs, but a huge portion of Aussies didn’t understand what they were voting for. I agree, those who didn’t had a responsibility to educate themselves, but labor had a responsibility to show people why this was a vote for unity.
I'm just, I'm so disappointed. I mean, it feels weird to vote for the idea to give people more rights when they're the ones who lived here first. It's like taking a vote on if you should allow your housemate to be on the lease.
It's just really disappointing. Labor didn't expect that the No vote would come out swinging and because of that there was A LOT of misinformation. Honestly, if you have fucking NAZI'S on your side... you should really re-evaluate your opinions.
I GOT A GRAD ROLE!
In summary: very excited!
Thanks Borat!
Woohoo! Well done!
Thanks so much mate!
🎉 congratulations! 🎉
Thanks mate!
Excellent news!
Thanks so much mate!
Yay! Well done you!
Thanks so much mate!
-check news-
shit
Bill and Ted watching cat telly together 🤗😸😸
They would be arguing about who would get the bird the quickest. I know brothers.
Beautiful. May they continue to learn to like each other.
Looks like they're becoming buds!
Nice! Tv buddies
Cat TV is the best - my ragdoll spends hours on her tree watching it
After this result (I voted yes) I hope what comes next is more funding for better indigenous health outcomes and remote community support through legislation.
This isn't the end of the conversation.
Also some action about deaths in custody. Something
Ok morning, here's my plan..
In no particular order.
Early congrats for your milestone birthday! 🎂 🥳🎁
Thankyou!
Omg huge milestone birthday coming up! Mr Peeler better show you a good time. Any plans?
Not really. Mr P on the dole and I'm a bit skint so I suspect that the actual day (being a school and work day) will involve more of the usual lol. But there will be cake (bought a reliable packet mix for them to make up while I'm at work).
Not looking forward to the results of the national racism check. We probably didn’t need a referendum to know the result. God I hope I’m wrong.
Ffs
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Just in: Australians are a pack of racists. Also the floor is made of floor
So not a fan of this crap. Certain politicians don't want to take responsibility for their bigoted views, so they ask citizens to decide and then stir up smear campaigns and misinformation. And so many people buy it.
Gay marriage was banned in 2004 by John Howard's government and it only got made legal again in 2017 because the hatemongering/sabotage didn't work and the numbers passed. (There are legal differences but the underlying plan was the same.)
NOT ALL. 45% voted yes
And I think too many people who voted no are just really really stupid and let themselves be swayed by simple propaganda.
why the fuck can't reasonable people make propaganda to sway voters?!>! It's not unethical to have catchy jingles.
Can't sleep, too nervous for the inevitable and unfortunate No result of the referendum.
I can't vote so it feels crushing to know I can't do much but watch No very likely win.
Are we supposed to the know the result tonight?
The result should come in very quickly because the counting process is very simple.
According to abc radio, yes.
I woke up a little late after being exhausted last night. I decided to go ahead and cook my big breakfast or in this case lunch.
I’ve got toasted bread, eggs under the bacon, some charred fried tomatoes, onion and mushrooms with some hash brown and a couple of sausages and also a little bit of Dino pasta.
Sorry about messiness of the plate and playing but here it is.
I have to say I’m stuffed now.
Dino pasta for adults everywhere!
Victoria has had a First Peoples' Assembly since 2019. This is largely identical in role and function to what the federal Voice would be, but it is tasked with representing its views at a state level.
Sadly, while I try to hold on to a bit of hope, it is almost certain Victoria will not be voting Yes today.
Make it make sense.
I know people both who are voting yes and no. Whilst the odd person that votes no might have a thought through reason, there’s also many who are voting no because Don’t know, Can’t be bothered I have better things to do, Conspiracy theory xyz , I hate Albo, why should they get something special, etc. Its horrifying how many people are in this category. I think the vote is not really split between yes and no, it’s split between yes, no, and cooker. Was never gonna be a fair debate.
I think you're bang on.
WA has a body at the State level, also. WA will also likely return a "No" vote.
And SA has just established one. There might be more around the place too.
Wondering to risk putting the laundry out - it's all blustery out there and looks miserable but no real rain as such.
The black dog continues to lurk for honestly no good reason at all. It's getting quite tedious. I have taken my massive vit D supplement but something tells me I need more sun. I've enjoyed having my blackout blinds in my bedroom but I think I need to leave more sun filtering through so I wake up more naturally and start the day a bit less groggy and shitful...
E: I had some coffee and it definitely helped but now I feel a bit jittery instead. I started looking at jobs in Perth ........
I was rained upon waiting to vote. Probably just stay inside today lol.
Bleah. Might just. Looks like little bands of spitting showers here and there. At least Tuesday is looking good for doing the sheets and blankets...
One disadvantage of living near the top of a hill is that the walk home is always upwards. A lot of walking to write a few letters on a piece of paper, but I did get to see some nice gardens on the way - one place in particular had a stunning native garden. I also got to pat a dog (a young excitable Husky, which I expect will be trouble in the future as the owner did not seem to have any idea how to deal with it, unfortunately).
We live in the top of a hill too.
I walked to vote this morning. The rest of the household drove. They bet me there and back by 30 seconds.
The walk back uphill was very tiring because they didn’t have Democracy Sausages at the Polling Station.
My walk was about 20 mins each way, so driving definitely would have been quicker. It would be half the time if I could walk direct, but there is a big sports complex and a school in the way I have to walk around.
17k steps for the day, good boy me. Now time to lay on the bed like a cow for the rest of the day 🐮
I think I made the mistake of turning on to the abc’s vote counting broadcast.
Listening to a politician on his view about the No vote and how he talks makes me sick.
Of course they support the idea and everything about recognition and how there’s so many ways to word it but of course they’re opposed to the no vote for the same amount of reasons and words that all mean the same thing.
Political spin makes my head hurt.
I’m putting on a movie before the women’s afl or cricket starts.
omg, Ted really really loves the Che cushion 😨
Give big pats to bill and ted for us :)
can i walk in for a democracy sausage even though i am not allowed to democracy
Almost certainly yes. I plan to do this, as I've already voted but don't want to miss out on the fun part. And you can have multiple democracy sausages, but can't vote multiple times.
Interesting.. also I don't think I've ever voted at a place which does sausages. I've been voting at the wrong place. Are democracy sausages paid or free?
I might have to hunt down a voting place.
Edit: excellent site https://democracysausage.org/search/referendum_2023
Oh yes I will do that thank you
Had to very awkwardly and very firmly tell a campaigner at my local to "leave me alone", they actually followed me through the gate attempting to shove pamphlets and crap at me.
I'm pretty sure they aren't supposed to do that. They're supposed to stay in designated areas and only offer pamphlets. They aren't supposed to coerce voters.
We had a guy camping at the end of the line handing out pamphlets to people joining the queue. Pretty sure he wasn't supposed to be there, either.
They aren't, there's a distancing rule, but with no one there to enforce it they get a bit rabid.
Next up on my to do list is a uni assignment, so I think I'm going to go op shopping...
Edit: local op shop had absolutely nothing interesting today. I might have to check out the bigger Brotherhood one next to NQR during the week.
Don’t forget the procrasti-cleaning
I can't do that, it's on the list after the uni work. So every time my brain goes "I could start on that tidying..." I have to reply with "just as soon as I tick off the assignments".
Lunch toastie: lamb, tomato relish, sauerkraut and two cheeses (chedder and an unidentified hard white cheese), on a dark capeseed bread.
Never heard of a sandwich with those ingredients and it looks amazing. Did you invent that?
It's a variation based very loosely on a Reuben sandwich. I find the sauerkraut works really well with those types of ingredients, and my current batch is made with some fennel which adds some extra depth of flavour too.
It needs a name.
I vote the Lambish krauter toastchee.
Am full of sausage. Nap time Zzzzz
Happy Saturday! 🥳
yay 😸
Does anybody else think that Albo kind of half-arsed this? I don't wish him to resign but jeez I hope he puts in more effort in future.
I think there’s a lot of pieces that led to this. Perhaps more information and presentation of what it means to vote yes.
Equally the No campaigns were quite awful for done of them and played on the ignorant and fears of people.
A lot of people were too easily swayed into the no camp for a myriad of reasons I feel.
I don’t have the answers to it however.
What I observed was Lidia (as much as I disagree with what she says) voice her opinion in a passionate way on every program that I turned on all I heard from Our Leader was "it's up to the Australian people. I'm sure they will do the right thing". Where's the passion? Where's the leadership? I'm very disappointed.
Albo didn’t even 1/4 ass this. The things been dead in the water for months. Fear was always gonna win in the face of no response from yes.
He showed no ass.
I like the bloke as a person, but as a PM he's not really showing enough leadership.
The voice is a great idea but definitely needed fleshing out and actively promoting it from day 1.
Also, given all the other issues Austrians are facing right now, this was the wrong time for the referendum.
Yes except the bit about the Austrians. Hahaha.
Well, it's not really his job. He promised to bring the question to the voters, and he did that. That should have been all he needed to do. This isn't really meant to be his cause.
It also should have been brought years ago by either Abbott or Morrison. The Statement From the Heart was made in 2017.
This is why I was surprised when Mr Dutton spoke about a referendum rematch. His party sat on this topic for years.
I understand why Albo said he respects the decision of the Australian people.
But I fucking don't. People who voted no suck.
here's a positive, nothing has been lost, no rights have been lost, no money has been lost, no programs have been dismantled
this was just one thing and we can keep working in other ways
sadly, what may have happened is an increase in social division here, thanks to murdoch and russia . We must not let them write the narrative, we will not become Us vs Them. We are all Aussies.
I think what stresses me out the most is the thought of how easy it was for that divisive narrative to win. This was such a simple proposal in a way and it just seemed so easy for fear and disinformation to win. I really worry about what it means for the neslxt election etc.
(I know you don't have the answer just riffing off your comment)
it just seemed so easy for fear and disinformation to win.
This is not surprising. Answers are not complicated because humans are not really that complicated.
We have an aging population and it's a fact that as people age they feel fear, fear because they are physically weaker than when they were young, they also feel they don't fully understand society anymore and may be confused by all the changes. It's far too easy to appeal to the past , when old people felt stronger, and say the past was better etc etc
Better change will come when the population demographics changes , as the older boomers pass on. The younger people will act out of compassion, courage and a positive belief in the future again
But please remember the boomers also voted in Whitlam, not all are conservatives
Yeah it does feel really weird. Like same-sex marriage vote was a unanimous yes, and Labor's wins in both the Federal and State elections weren't landslides but they were better than majority thought. I understand that this one lost because there was so much misinformation, but it just feels so weird that it lost by a lot. So far only one state/territory has got a majority Yes. Victoria is always a pretty safe Progressive seat as of late, and while the inner electorates are mostly Yes and the regional electorates being No. It still feels weird that it's a majority No here.
(unless of course you do have the answer in which case all hail Seagoon_ I look forward to you long reign :) )
Made a chicken stock and then soup. It's simmering away on the stove and I'm about to add "noodles" (really it's broken spaghetti, the only time I break spaghetti! Mum used to do it and I got used to it). Also having lamb cutlets because local butcher had them for reasonable price so I thought why not. Elder doesn't like lamb but will be soothed with home-made chocolate brownie.
🤌 🤌 🤌 🤌 🤌 🤌 🤌 Angry Italian Noises 🤌 🤌 🤌 🤌 🤌 🤌 🤌
I used to beg for unbroken spaghetti. Seriously it takes just a minute to bend it into the pot. No busted up noodles!
Broken spaghetti has no place in my usual spaghetti dishes. Mum used to always break it. I don't know why and I don't think she did either. Probably so dad could shovel it down faster, idk. In my chicken soup it's a bit too long though.
Have 4 of these things and it's the first time one of them has done something:
Hooray.
lovely and the birds and bats and bees will have a feast 😊
I'd be keen to hear what comes of that purple flowered banksia that was in the news. I reckon it's just a local reaction to changed soil conditions but if it's genetic and heritable that would be pretty cool.
So fatigued and nauseous today. I almost booked a night up in Moama but I feel gross, so it looks like I'm just staying here fighting the urge to go back to bed.
Don't forget to vote
Holy shit the line to vote down in Docklands is INSANE. Also I brought $7 thinking I'll get 2 sausage but they're $4....
It'll be back to tumbleweeds tm don't worry.
aka, peaceful
4 dollars? Yesh, I thought they were going to be around 3 dollars.
Won the food cupboard bread trifecta this morning - English muffins, crumpets and fruit loaf! They had a ton of muffins especially today for some reason. It was odd, there was no normal bread, normally there is lots of plain bread and the others are an occasional treat. Good timing too, I'm almost out of muffins and I do like them with my eggs for breakfast.
My spooky playlist is behind and I am stupid tired today. I need to get a reign on this fatigue that seems to have reared up this year. On a random note, I’m impressed with the silicone moulds I purchased.
Hope everyone is okay this evening.
Need a Covid shot but can’t go to a pharmacy as I need to lie down for a while after due to reactions. My gp only does them on specific days twice a month, during the day (we both work and need my OH to accompany me). It shouldn’t be this hard … the vaccine centres were great, I let them know in advance. sigh.
Love a 30% off booze sale on ubereats. I was just ordering some Thai for dinner and you can tack on an extra order without the service fee.. saw Liquorland on there and with the 30% off promotion I'm getting a 10 pack of Jim Beam Black 6.9% (nice) cans delivered for $10 less than if I drove to Dan Murphy's. I'm not even finished my last 10 pack, but I'll take a bargain when I see it.
I always get worried that my food will just get even colder and worse quality if they need another stop along the way. I'd only do it if they were next to each other or something 😬
I've only done it a couple of times but tonight the 2 deliveries were delivered by separate people rather than the same one along the way. I got the booze delivery about 8 minutes before the food one, so I took it up stairs then pretty much went back down right away to collect the food.
I think today is one of those days that needs a To Do List.
Somewhere in there I'll need to work out what to eat today, and eat it. Feeling a bit uninspired on that front so far.
Edit: eating is going well so far. English muffin with fried eggs and garlic mushrooms. I'm thinking probably a burger for dinner. Still undecided on lunch, but a lamb sandwich is probably a good option.
New runners! Quite liking the aesthetics
How on earth does a rainbow lorikeet get itself stuck behind a car dashboard? I expect that sort of misadventure from cats, not birds!
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Glad they could rescue it.
Up from underneath I guess. Like cats sleeping on tyres within the wheel arches etc.
So chill voting down here on the bellarine compared to melbs.
Also added a bunch of shit to the chilli patch hoping for a better crop this year. Bit of dynamic poo, bit of super phosphate c'mon little chillos you got this.
Nothing quite says this has been a relationship of circumstance quite like an incoming departure, annoying habits blocked out become maddeningly unbearable once again.
Someone's habit of clearing their throat every 5-10 minutes might just send me postal before my time is up.
I was helping my daughter with a playlist for a friend's birthday party. I suggested Bob Marley. Got told partygoer's wouldn't know who Bob Marley is. WHO DOES NOT KNOW BOB MARLEY? What are parents teaching these kids? I'm disappointed. Also kid knows we're pretty cool. 😎
Dad is heading in to visit Mum at the hospital tomorrow (she broke her ankle, has to stay a while) so I might make them both some coffee and take it to them in my keep-hot cup. I think they'll like my coffee, I make it double shot. I hate having relatively early nights on a Saturday, I feel like a loser.. but I'm tired so (Mario style) heeere we go! zzz
hugs, I hope your mum gets better soon
why so glooooooomy here
Vitamin D deficiency
But the sky, the sky is gloomy too. What is blocking the sky from the sun? How do we give the sky Vitamin D?
Hemberders tonight. Sometimes I buy the pre-made Angus beef ones from Wooly.
I buy these ones when they're on the spesh. They are very juicy.
Thanks Chief. I normally make my own but the Angus ones are decent substitute because I can’t be fucked sometimes.
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May I have a sausage for democracy please?
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What is love?
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Sossige inna bun with unyuns, and a biggish koffy pleeze.
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Onions on the bottom please
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Donate plasma y'all
oh, no baby falcons this year :(
Tonight, it's more Japanese - leftover miso soup, steamed broccoli with goma-ae and I made an attempt at tamagoyaki for the first time. It looks like a giant yellow turd but... The inside is perfectly textured and it tastes not bad at all if I say so myself! I still think it's not exactly easy to do, you have to get everything in place and work quickly between dabbing with oil, pouring, lifting and rolling, but it doesn't feel as impossible as it did...
Google maps phone app update has changed the colours and I do not like it.
you know how some folk came up with those "memo" water bottles (flat, rectangular in standard paper sizes like a5 etc)?
I want someone to do the same with food containers, so that my meals sit nicely in my satchel, and I don't have to leave my beautiful Italian satchel at home in favour of girthier but far more student-y crumpler.
that is all.
That’s a smart idea. Kind of like this? https://brabantia.com.au/new/make-take-lunch-box-flat-light-grey/
But if your meal leaks the Crumpler might be a bit sturdier to wash
yeah, that's the sort of thing I'm thinking but with a GUARANTEE of no leakage!
This was supposed to be a MarioKart party, but apparently the disc has shat itself.
https://imgur.com/a/nLa51eI?s=sms
ID: a table full of nibbles
fuckin' KFC. YOU MESSED WITH MY COMFORT FOOD. I SAID NO CORN CHIPS. NO ONE WANTS FUCKING CORNCHIPS. YOU ASSES.
But on the plus side i got a great shot of my cat seagulling a nugget while i was telling another one off for attempted seagulling
I love the corn chip ones
Thank u cornchips georg
struts in
whats this new place-
wait what the fuck is going on with the Aussie government? are they fucking over indigenous ppl again?
again
*still
got some movie music stuck in my head, not even sure what it is but what ever it is it's lovely 🤗😊🎶🎵
now I'm off to vote, 🤞🏻 yes