ICE Detains U.S.-Born Citizen Despite Judge Seeing Birth Certificate

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ICE ILLEGALLY detains US citizen.
We need some precision in our language.
- They may have released him according this post.
  https://bsky.app/profile/mcornatzer.bsky.social/post/3ln2bnkpfwc26
  I’m not defending this shit but staying up to date and informed on this shit is hard.
  
  It was still illegal to detain him in the first place.
- ~~ICE~~ Trump's Gestapo illegally kidnaps US citizens and other humans for the purpose of sending them to a death camp in El Salvidor, which, regardless of whether or not they are a criminal or even whether or not they get due process is unconstitutional under the 8th amendment, not that ~~Hitler~~ Trump cares about the law.
  I don't know if you saw those pictures of CECOT with the pile of human bodies, but if you haven't, don't look it up unless you don't want to sleep.
- Kidnapping.

- I truly don't think democracy has very long in this country. Either the people rise up or die under oppression.
  Our systems have failed
  
  [sound of bell chiming]
  ...
  "I don't think this egg timer has very long before it counts down to zero."
  
  Somehow, the people aren't quite singing yet....
- I asked my governor if they could waive the CCP law...for reasons. But yeah, I guess some people are going to have to be disobeying the law.
- One amateur vs a handful of prepared pros is gonna mean one dead armchair infantry.
  I support the effort to resist but think guns at the point of capture isn't going to go like on TV.
  
  I think the implication is that you're going to die in El Salvador, so better to die at home and maybe take a few ICE thugs with you.
  
  "Don't fight back, they'll kill you" do you realize how insane that sounds when they're deporting people to a death camp in another country also ruled by a dictator and you've been told repeatedly no one leaves that death camp. Ever.
  
  I will happily catch bullets taking some ICE thugs with me before I lie down and accept death in a concentration camp.
  I will also happily catch bullets taking some ICE thugs with me to protect someone nearby from being taken.
  Nobody posting memes like this is under any illusion that if they pull a gun, they are getting away with no repercussions. Bare minimum, you are now on the run for the rest of your life or until the remaining US population sees the light of day and organizes with us.
  
  Very cool, enjoy your stay in the gulag. Since that's the alternative
  
  You're missing the point. Past of the message is you'd rather die than be taken.
  
  I'd rather die in a shoot out with ICE than go to a death camp. I don't leave the house now without my concealed carry.

SEND THE AGENT THAT ARRESTED HIM TO JAIL. YOU DON'T HAVE TO GO AFTER THE BOSSES, SEND THE FUCKERS DOING THE DIRTY WORK TO JAIL AND THIS WILL STOP.
- You can beat the charge and even win money but you can't beat the car ride and jail cell visit.
  And until we start demanding a higher class of police officer, bullies too lazy for the military are what we will get. Not that I'd want better police officers in this dystopian police system.
- until trump pardons them
  
  So what? Do it anyway. PUNISH THEM during that lag between when the offense is detected and when Trump finds out and is able to act (if he chooses to act, which isn't actually a guarantee). Even if they only sit in a holding cell for a matter of days or even hours, at least the experience of being strip-searched, fingerprinted, having their mugshot taken, and forced to wear an orange jumpsuit would be SOMETHING!
  
  Arrest them on state charges for kidnapping.
  
  State kidnapping charges
  
  Send them to el salvador real quick and the pardon will be useless.

Lopez Gomez, 21, was born in Georgia. According to court records, he has been assigned a judge as well as a public defender. He appears to have been arrested and charged under an “anti-immigration” law passed in Florida two months ago, despite the fact that the law is currently under a temporary restraining order and isn’t supposed to be enforced.
- A Federal Agency is holding him under State Law? WTF???
  
  Afaik he was being detained by the state, initially under suspicion of breaking the law but then later they continued to hold him just because ICE asked them to.
  Reporting on this story hasn't been very good, it's been difficult to follow the more nuanced details of what's going on. But the bottom line is very clear: he was detained illegally, and the fascists wanted to deport him anyway.
- Ergo, he's being detained illegally.
- Wait, which Georgia?

Makes you wonder how many US citizens have already been "Administratively errored" to El Salvador.
New rules.
Are you brown? Do you primarily speak a language other than English? Do you have a common but ethnic name like Gomez? Are you a Chicago Bulls fan? Do you have any kind of marking or birthmark on you that someone could claim is a secret gang tattoo? Do you have a name similar to or even live near anybody who fits any of the above criteria?
If the answer to one or more of those questions is "yes", I wouldn't be leaving the house. You can literally find yourself on a plane destined for El Salvador literally before your family even realizes you haven't made it home from work yet, because the new rules are that as long as they can stick you on that plane and get that plane in the air before a judge can say something, they get to get away with it and you have no recourse. Good luck ever speaking to anyone who even speaks English ever again, let alone family.
What's scary is that that is not hyperbole.
- https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/apr/15/self-deportation-email-citizen-immigration-lawyer
  
  Soo... which side of the line does she fall on?
- Yeah, this is really fucked up for people of color. Just another disgusting timeline for America.

Homegrowns really are next, huh?

Look out for your community
- Start hanging out in immigrant communities exercising your rights to gun ownership.

I thought this would start to happen next week, but here we are already.
https://discuss.tchncs.de/comment/17763637
- I said the same thing myself about 2 days ago.
  We've still got 13 days to go. US citizens are being detained, and white people are already being served with deportation orders despite being US citizens. I stand by my prediction: A US citizen will end up in El Salvador by the end of the month, and it could even be a white person.
  This is no longer about immigration. The brown people that Trump hates so much aren't the target any more. They're just another pawn in the game. Trump is making his authoritarian power grab and this is the line in the sand. The new message isn't "Get rid of the brown people." It's now "Get rid of anyone I don't like.", and he will have no problems making an example out of a white person if it thinks it will further erode resistance.
  
  I'm gonna be so fucking mad if I have to flee this fuckin country
  
  Sorry if I'm a bit out of the loop, but what's happening in 13 days that's of note?
  
  Don't you know? Woke people get honorary brown certificates by George Soros so it's okay to deport them.

This will NEVER Happen to me!
-LITERALLY EVERYONE who Voted for Trump!
- My local Trumpers are completely sure this is fake news and nothing bad is happening.

Hello USA citizen.
Because you are new to dealing with your government, and because some here who been seeing how USA government and its propaganda machine work know better…
I would like to draw your attention to the fact all these news coming as “ICE did this and that” is basically aim to draw the attention away from the real people who did this.
So next time you see “ICE” remember that this Trump and his friend. If you can dig deep who is running ICE that will also work.
putting a name of a person instead of company or group work better in stopping them. See Luigi incident for inspiration…

Are they going to send this person to the CECOT mound?
- What's that?
  
  It appears to be a mound of bodies surrounded by blood. This a satellite image of the CECOT prison in El Salvador where Trump is unconstitutionally sending people without due process. According to 60 minutes 75% of the 200 people sent here have no criminal record. Trump told the El Salvadorian president to build more prisons because he’s sending “homegrown” Americans next
  
  CECOT in El Salvador, where they are sending people accused of being in “gangs” - for example, the man from Maryland that the Supreme Court has ordered the administration to return.
  That is a Google earth view of the site, showing what is very likely a large blood stain, as CECOT does not release prisoners.

It finally happened. Now what?

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