Suddenly seeing more hexbear posts. Did we re-federate with them?

If so, was it polled somewhere?

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I appear to be out of the loop. What's wrong with hexbear? I'm not familiar with the instance.
- They're just an annoying bunch of wannabe communists who sound incredibly smug and post a ton of stickers in comments. Having said that I've moved to lemm.ee when lemmy.world defeterated from hexbear.
  
  Gonna be real, your smug levels are pretty high right now yourself.
  
  My apologies, I was generalising. I've had perfectly normal interactions with hexbear users, but I also saw a bunch of very circlejerky threads populated by hexbear users which I found unbearable (or should it be unhexbearable?).
- If you're familiar with CTH and the dirtbag left, Hexbear is where they went after being banned by Reddit.
  For what it is when lemm.ee considered de-federated from them they flooded the instance turning a 200 comment thread into 1200. And lots of harassment. Edit: In case you wanted to read that clusterbomb of a thread: https://lemm.ee/post/4543536
  
  I had to look them up but yep I do remember CTH. Thanks for the answer, I'll keep an eye out.
- Lots of tankies from what I'm seeing, they're the "alt-left" if you will, they believe in just as much weird stuff as the alt-right but are on the left side of the spectrum... Heck they end up meeting on many things...
  
  Could you provide an example of Hexbears agreeing with the alt-right about something specific? I think a lot of people conflate "disagreeing with the liberal consensus" with "thinking a MAGA thing" when they're really pretty different.
  
  Mostly about China and North Korea.
  Alt right and alt left both deny Uyghur camps, and think Kim Jong Un is pretty awesome.
  
  In my experience alt right folks are pretty anti China, to the point where that is often the reason they oppose the Ukraine war, as it is dividing the attention of the Christian west from the rising, menacing Tigers that threaten white society.
  Hexbears are often skeptical of Adrian Zenz who is usually the source of claims about China. Most that I've seen acknowledge that there are camps (China openly says it is running programs to deradicalize separatists and fundamentalists in the region), but disagree that they are as bad as western media depicts them, and would probably argue that western nations are concern trolling about the issue regardless because it is easy to question whether American foreign policy is motivated by concern for Muslims. Genuinely curious, who is an alt-right guy who doesn't think there are camps in Xinjiang? I've never encountered a pro-Chinese reactionary.
  As to Korea I thought MAGA types just memed about Kim Jong Un because Trump sort of got along with him. Hexbears think that the Korean War was bad and that Korea is acting predictably given that a nuclear power is constantly threatening them with annihilation. There are a variety of positions in Hexbear on the DPRK though, and I can't really account for all of them, but I think they arise out of a genuine anti-imperial and anti-war sentiment, and a healthy doze of skepticism of western narratives of a state enemy. I don't think you could say that for the alt right.
  
  Alt right and Liberals both hate China
  
  Trump derangement syndrome is all too real and the proof is how liberals reacted to him trying to end the Korean war.
  
  Same thing with Afghanistan.
  
  Alt Right and alt left both deny the existence of the tooth fairy
  
  Last I checked the alt right believes them same claims about the world that dems do in terms of the supposed camps, they just think they are good because the alt right hates muslims
  
  Heck they end up meeting on many things...
  name literally a single one or quit spreading this bullshit.
  
  Being pro Russia, genocide denialism, authoritarianism, being hateful of ideas that don't conform to their worldview, racism (just not towards the same people), the list goes on and on.
  
  Being anti-nato does not mean we are pro-russia.
  Specifically which genocide is being denied?
  Define "authoritarianism".
  Yes we are hateful towards racism, sexism, ableism, transphobia, homophobia and fascism.
  What racism is being done by hexbear users? The mod team takes such things very seriously
  
  No one here is pro Russia lol. We just recognize that the war in Ukraine is an intractable meat grinder, and working for peace is more productive than continuing the conflict in an effort to further enrich War Contractors.
  
  Woah woah woah, calm down there chief.
  I have that same opinion having seen hexbear posts for the past 6 months. It's not invalid because it makes you upset.
  
  boo hoo someone is to your left politically and you're mad about it.
  
  The only person that looks mad here is you...
  
  cope
  
  "These two groups disagree with me, that means they must agree with each other!"
- I had some conversations here. They were saying that north Korea is a lovely democracy, Russia is totally justified in Ukraine, and China isn't doing anything to the Uyghurs in Xinjiang. Just some examples from yesterday.
  
  Here's a very approachable resource that debunks the claims of genocide in Xinjiang, using mainly western sources https://xinjiangahr.carrd.co/
  
  Examples of what? People disagreeing with you?
  
  I went into the thread. You defended Nazis and argued that it makes sense that the FRG (west Germany) had so many Nazis in control of the government, police, judicative, and companies. While there were alternatives (believe me as someone living in Germany and having informed myself about that I know it). You also moved your goal posts and tried to diminish influences of other states i.e. the US (which you nationalist rise above others). All in all you would be okay in the instance, but get back lash when you kept up the way to jump from one to the other.
  That you try to ignore those actions and the responses to your comments fits that lemmy users arguing against hexbear are deflecting heavily from their own responsibility and their own actions.
  Your points in regards to both Russia&Ukraine are also not true (else you would directly link to it, and then there is no consensus in the hexbear userbase neither) and liking the CFR article is also not showing anything about hexbear (who - if you do search for it - are actually linking the UN report as well as the Chinese answer in regards to the Uigurs in their threads and comments about it).
  
  Well. I think that thread gave me cancer. What a cesspool.
  
  They're coming here. They've all got their pronouns after their names, (which is actually a great idea) so it's a little easier to tell them apart. I've got a useless thread with a few in [email protected] right now.

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