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Iconoclast

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Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.

  • George Orwell

  • Electric buses are passing a brutal cold-weather test in Wisconsin

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  • Which of those vehicles don't even need to exist?

  • What old person thing do you do now that you wouldn't have guessed you'd do when you were younger?

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  • Waking up at 7am on weekends?

  • I mean, they could end up being greed bros too and go into real estate or finance.

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  • This is genuinely so strange to me. I wouldn't generally mind that one has to somehow prove themselves to be able to join but just to humiliate other because it's something you had to endure few years earlier makes no sense to me and I don't want anything to do with a club that does that. I'm far more likely to find likeminded people within the group who chose not to join for the same reason.

  • I mean, they could end up being greed bros too and go into real estate or finance.

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  • Why would you assume they're all straight?

  • There are no psychopaths, but the idea persists.

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  • As with most things like this it's probably a spectrum rather than something you either are or are not. It's easy to tell when someone is in the far end of that spectrum but the line where it officially crosses into psychopathy is always going to be arbitrary.

  • Anthropic says it ‘cannot in good conscience’ allow Pentagon to remove AI checks

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  • I never claimed it will.

  • Bipartisan bill aims to block big investors from buying single-family homes

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  • I'd imagine the core idea is to try and limit investing for individuals only - not organizations.

  • Myanmar junta deploys AI-powered Russian and Chinese tracking system to target 50,000 individuals for new wave of arrests

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  • Couldn't we all just get along..?

  • Anthropic says it ‘cannot in good conscience’ allow Pentagon to remove AI checks

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  • You don't seem very interested in sticking to the topic, do you? This conversation has been all over the place, complete with ad-hominems, concern-trolling, red herrings, strawmen, gish galloping - as if you're trying to break some kind of record.

    It's pretty clear you've built up a cartoon-villain version of me in your head and now you're fighting that imagined version like it's real. I made a pretty simple claim about AGI, you've piled an entire story on top of it, and now you're demanding I defend views I don't even hold.

    I've been trying to have a good-faith conversation here, but if this is what you're going to keep doing, then I'll just move on.

  • Anthropic says it ‘cannot in good conscience’ allow Pentagon to remove AI checks

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  • That doesn't have anything to do with my claim about the inevitability of AGI.

  • Anthropic says it ‘cannot in good conscience’ allow Pentagon to remove AI checks

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  • So do you think Dyson Spheres are inevitable too?

    I'm less certain about that than I am about AGI - there may be other ways to produce that same amount of energy with less effort - but generally speaking, yeah, it seems highly probable to me.

    First you were implying that today’s AI would bring about AGI

    I've never made such a claim. I've been saying the exact same thing since around 2016 or so - long before LLMs were even a thing. It's in no way obvious to me that LLMs are the path to AGI. They could be, but they don't have to be. Either way, it doesn't change my core argument.

    people you hold so dear

    C'moon now.

  • A two-child household must earn $400,000 a year for childcare to be affordable, study says. ‘It’s easy to see why birth rates are falling’

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  • Fair enough. Kids were also their retirement plan.

  • Anthropic says it ‘cannot in good conscience’ allow Pentagon to remove AI checks

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  • My argument is that we'll incrementally keep improving our technology like we have done throughout human history. Assuming that general intelligence is not substrate dependent - meaning that what our brains are doing cannot be replicated in silicon - or that we destroy ourselves before we get there, then it's just a matter of time before we create a system that's as intelligent as we are: AGI.

    I already said that the timescale doesn't matter here. It could take a hundred years or two thousand - doesn't matter. We're still moving toward it. It does not matter how slow you move. As long as you keep moving, you'll eventually reach your destination.

    So, how I see it is that if we never end up creating AGI ever, it's either because we destroyed ourselves before we got there or there's something borderline supernatural about the human brain that makes it impossible to copy in silicon.

  • Anthropic says it ‘cannot in good conscience’ allow Pentagon to remove AI checks

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  • If you're just gonna keep ignoring every single point I make and keep rambling about unrelated shit, then there's nothing left to discuss here. If you actually had an argument, you would've made it by now.

  • Anthropic says it ‘cannot in good conscience’ allow Pentagon to remove AI checks

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  • We are not “moving towards AGI” in any way with any modern technology

    So that means you believe AI research is completely frozen still or moving backwards. Please explain.

    Comparisons to faster-than-light travel are completely disingenuous and bad faith - that would break the laws of physics and you know it.

    You can also keep your red herrings to yourself. I'm discussing ideas here - not people.

  • Find your happiness

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  • I find that it helps me better tolerate unhappiness rather than actually making me happy.

  • Anthropic says it ‘cannot in good conscience’ allow Pentagon to remove AI checks

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  • Are we not moving toward AGI? Because from where I stand, I only see three scenarios: either AI research is going backwards, no progress is being made whatsoever, or we're continuing to improve our systems incrementally - inevitably moving toward AGI. Unless, ofcourse, you think we'll never going to reach it which I view as a quite insane claim in itself.

    If we're not moving toward it, then I'd love to hear your explanation for why we're moving backwards or not making any progress at all.

    Whether we're 5 or 500 years away from AGI is completely irrelevant to the people who worry about it. It's not the speed of the progress - it's the trajectory of it.

  • Kansalaisaloite korjauspalveluiden arvonlisäveron alentamisesta etenee eduskuntaan

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  • Mitenköhän tuo määritellään, että mikä lasketaan korjauspalveluksi. Mun koko yritystoiminta perustuu rakentamiseen ja korjaamiseen. Onko reijän paikkaus kipsilevyseinässä korjaamista? Entä pesuallashanan säätöosan vaihto? Rikkinäisen kattotiilen vaihtaminen uuteen? Vuotavan sadevesikourun paikkaus?

  • Anthropic says it ‘cannot in good conscience’ allow Pentagon to remove AI checks

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  • I still think they deserve some credit for at least trying to do the right thing. I don't envy the position they're in.

    Everyone's rushing toward AGI. Trying to do it safely is meaningless if your competition - the ones who don't care about safety - gets there first. You can slow things down if you're in the lead, but if you're second best, it's just posturing. There is no second place in this race.

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    One good thing about getting into a new relationship is that you get to re-tell all your best jokes and stories

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    What is a relatively inexpensive item that offers entertainment beyond it's intented usecase?

  • Dull Men's Club @lemmy.world
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    I bought my first ever butane torch and there's so much to roast all over my yard and nobody to stop me

  • Tools @lemmy.world
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    I splurged on a drywall sander - I should've bought one years ago

  • Dull Men's Club @lemmy.world
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    Oh corner trowel, where have you been all my life?