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  • I did not double check, but I assume the macro is provided by std (which is allowed to use unstable items internally). This macro can be stabilised, even if the unstable features themselves are not stabilised yet.

  • Nice to see continuous progress in Rust for Linux, especialy since it's seems efforts to stabilise Rust features so that RLA doesn't depend anymore on nightly seems to be fructiful.

    I'm looking forward for when a big driver (like ashahi or the Nvdia one) are merged in master. It's going to be a big milestone.

  • I personally factorize as soon as there are two copies, but do not hesitate to inline the code and redo the abstraction when there is a 3rd use if it doesn't fit. I find it much easier to inline and re-abstact a bad abstraction, than check if two copies are indeed identical.

    The exception is business logic. Usually I want all of them to be dupplicates because there is a very high chance that it's just accidental that part of the logic is similar. I take great care to have good primitives but the actual business logic that glue those primitives together is written as many time as needed.

  • First experience with #jj #jujitsu

    I tried the equivalent of git add -p (jj squash -i).

    • I realize that it’s closer to git add --interactive (which I find much more complicated and less productive)
    • I wasn’t able to edit a hunk (like the e key in git add -p) which I use a lot to split debug statements from real work

    I generated a conflict (as I expected)

    • I found no way to show the original diff
    • jj undo did not worked (I have not been able to undo the jj squash that introduced the conflict

    Very not impressed so far. Fortunately it was a test repo.

  • Like how the average computer user is never going to [...] install Firefox or whatever.

    Not right know but in 2005-2010 (or something like that), the average user was installing firefox because IE was so bad. It used to be at 80% market share IIRC.

  • I think you have a hard time understanding the différence between "not possible" and "much harder".

    In Rust, the code does not compile.

    In C++ the code compile, but

    • if you have a test case
    • this test case triggers the bug (it is not guarateed to properly reproduce you production environment since it depends on the parameters of the allocator of your vector)
    • you use ubsan

    ... then the bug will be caught.

    Yes it is possible, noone says the opposite. But you can't deny it's harder. And because its harder, more bugs get past review, most notably security bugs as demonstrated again and again in many studies. The

  • That's why I did not said it was impossible, just order of magnitude harder to catch in C++ compared to Rust.

    To have asan finding the bug, you need to have a valid unit test, that has a similar enough workload. Otherwise you may not see the bug with asan if the vector doesn't grow (and thus ref would still be valid, not triggering UB), leading to a production-only bug.

    Asan is a wonderfull tool, but you can't deny it's much harder to use and much less reliable than just running your compiler.

  •  c++
        
    void foo() {
        std::vector v = {0, 1, 2, 4};
        const auto& ref = v[1];
        add_missing_values(v);
        std::cout << ref << "\n";
    }
    
    void add_missing_values(std::vector<int>& v) {
        // ...
        v.push_back(3);
    }
    
      

    Neither foo(), nor add_missing_values() looks suspicious. Nonetheless, if v.push_back(3) requires v to grow, then ref becomes an invalid reference and std::cout << ref becomes UB (use after free). In Rust this would not compiles.

    It is order of magnitudes easier to have lifetime errors in C++ than in Rust (use after free, double free, data races, use before initialisation, …)

  • There are cases where instead of origin/master..HEAD you may want to use @{upstream}..HEAD instead to compare with the upstream of your current branch. It's unfortunately quite unknown.

  • This post from 2022 was very interesting:

    There are approximately 1.5 million total lines of Rust code in AOSP across new functionality and components [...] These are low-level components that require a systems language which otherwise would have been implemented in C++.

    To date, there have been zero memory safety vulnerabilities discovered in Android’s Rust code.

    https://security.googleblog.com/2022/12/memory-safe-languages-in-android-13.html

  • Programming.dev Meta @programming.dev
    robinm @programming.dev

    Hello,

    I’m trying to follow Lennard Poetting (@[email protected]) from my programming.dev account without success.

    On its user profile on mastodon.social, when I click on the “follow” button, then enter “programming.dev” (which is in the completion list) then “take me home”, I am redirected to https://programming.dev/authorize_interaction?uri=https%3A%2F%2Fmastodon.social%2Fusers%2Fpid_eins which is a 404 error.

    I also tried to search for “@[email protected]” directly from programming.dev, found it, but 0 toot, and no button to be able to follow it.

    Am I doing something wrong? Is mastodon.social and programming.dev not federated?

    Rust @programming.dev
    robinm @programming.dev

    Rust for Linux — in space

    The Rust for Linux (RFL) project may not have (yet) resulted in user-visible changes to the Linux kernel, but it seems the wider world has taken notice. Hongyu Li has announced that the Rust for Linux code is now part of a satellite just launched out of China. The satellite is running a system called RROS, which follows the old RTLinux pattern of running a realtime kernel alongside Linux. The realtime core is written in Rust, using the RFL groundwork.

    Despite its imperfections, we still want to share RROS with the community, showcasing our serious commitment to using RFL for substantial projects and contributing to the community's growth. Our development journey with RROS has been greatly enriched by the