www.bbc.com Why are Premier League injuries at a new high?
The Premier League currently has 196 injuries recorded in just over three months, with Newcastle and Manchester United suffering more than most - so why this many?
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Not sure what you're getting at. I am Hallenbeck. I am the mod of the !coys@lemmy.world. There is no ”Hallenberg". Not sure what you're saying.
I still don't see moderation options on my posts from Mastodon.
This community: https://lemmy.world/c/coys
Most of my posts are from Mastodon. None of them can be removed from Lemmy from within Lemmy, even though I am a mod of that community.
Feels like we’re approaching the point where rules about minutes played per week/month/year might need to be regulated.
It's complicated to legislate for, though. It's not just about limiting time played as a blanket policy across leagues. Context is important. Have a listen to this podcast with performance manager I posted a link to a few days back:
https://lemmy.world/post/8310123
Specifically the part starting at 33:15. It's not a straightforward problem to solve, sadly.
Hamstring injuries are up 96% compared to last season
Why are Premier League injuries at a new high?
- Injury crisis: The Premier League has seen a record number of injuries this season, with 196 in just over three months. Newcastle and Manchester United are the worst-hit teams with 14 players injured each this season.
- World Cup effect: The 2022 winter World Cup in Qatar may have contributed to the increase in injuries, as players had to play more games in a shorter time before and after the tournament. The average length and severity of injuries also rose after the World Cup.
- Hamstring injuries: Hamstring injuries have seen a 96% increase this season, with 53 incidents. This may be related to the longer added time and the higher tempo of the Premier League games.
- Cost of injuries: Injuries have a significant financial impact on clubs, as they have to pay wages to unavailable players. The cost of injuries across the Premier League, La Liga, Serie A, Bundesliga and Ligue 1 was £617.8m in 2022-23, a 27.3% increase from the previous season.
- Festive period: The
The Biggest Danger To English Football, Salary Caps and How Much Money Do Football Clubs Lose? - The Rest Is Football
pca.st The Biggest Danger To English Football, Salary Caps & How Much Money Do Football Clubs Lose? - The Rest Is Football
What is the biggest threat to the growth, or even survival, of domestic football? Would salary caps help level the playing field? Is it ok for football clubs to continually lose money? Crystal Palace co-owner and chairman Steve Parish joins Gary and Alan on today’s episode to discuss what it’s reall...
cross-posted from: https://mastodon.online/users/hallenbeck/statuses/111438924092907782
The Biggest Danger To English Football, Salary Caps & How Much Money Do Football Clubs Lose? - The Rest Is Football
REALLY interesting episode with Crystal Palace co-owner and chairman Steve Parish.
https://pca.st/episode/5b0d8ca8-0013-41cf-b158-0451672b0190
What is the biggest threat to the growth, or even survival, of domestic football? Would salary caps help level the playing field? Is it ok for football clubs to continually lose money?
Everton’s deduction is a tremor – City and Chelsea may face the earthquake
www.theguardian.com Everton’s deduction is a tremor – City and Chelsea may face the earthquake
Everton first to be punished for breaking profitability and sustainability rules – others can only wait to see what comes next
Summary
- Everton verdict: The Premier League has docked Everton 10 points for breaching its profit and sustainability rules. Everton is the first club to be punished for breaking financial fair play rules.
- City and Chelsea cases: Manchester City and Chelsea are also under investigation by the Premier League for alleged financial wrongdoing. They face more severe charges and potential sanctions, including relegation.
- Premier League's stance: The Premier League is keen to enforce its rules and regulations and deter clubs from circumventing them. It also wants to retain some of its regulatory powers amid the prospect of an independent regulator.
- Everton's appeal: Everton has said it will appeal against the verdict and the finding that it failed to act with the utmost good faith. However, experts believe it is unlikely to succeed.
- Other clubs' claims: Leeds, Leicester, Burnley and Southampton have 28 days to inform the commission if they want compensation from
And Chelsea
Agreed! Interesting content, in-depth analysis, great goals, highlights from extraordinary or notable matches. 👍
I've found some content I've posted along these lines gets downvoted (e.g. https://lemmy.world/post/8042698) for no given reason, which is always a bit dispiriting. In that example, it's always good fun to get an insight into how top coaches think, even if you don't support that team. Sky's Monday Night Football great for that - Gary O'Neil and Thomas Franck being notable examples recently:
Hello!
Would be great if highlights and goals could be kept in a single matchweek thread or similarly organised somehow. They often crowd out and rapidly push down other content making it hard to see. I've sometimes logged in to find a wall of scores and match updates for stuff I'm not interested in (e.g. the wall of Copenhagen v Manchester United goals recently - would those not be better served up in a single thread rather than a post per goal?). Highlights are fine, but I can usually find extended highlights pretty easily on the many highlight websites out there (including YouTube). Posting scores here seems a bit redundant too - there are so many apps and websites now that provide live scores and in-depth stats.
But I appreciate these things might be useful to others so just appealing for perhaps a bit more organisation around them.
Tifo Football Podcast: Is too much football causing injuries?
pca.st Is too much football causing injuries? - Tifo Football Podcast
Jon Mackenzie is joined by performance manager Callum Walsh to talk about the problems associated with player fitness. What does an average week look like for a fitness and conditioning professional in a football club? How much of an influence does the team’s game model have on the strength and co...
cross-posted from: https://mastodon.online/users/hallenbeck/statuses/111416599829567870
Tifo Football Podcast: Is too much football causing injuries?
If you only listen to one thing this international break, make it this. A fascinating and absorbing deep dive into the many aspects and problems associated with player fitness.
It's much more complicated than a binary fit/not-fit decision.
We Spurs fans had three defensive coaches in succession (Mourinho, Nuno, Conte) and those seasons were pure misery and without any progress, despite at least two of those coaches being proven "serial winners". There's a reason why top clubs in the Premier League aren't defensive – fans and the media hate it and it doesn't suit the league. The clubs at the bottom of the league tend to adopt more defensive low-blocks and mid-blocks out of necessity. Some clubs like Brentford and Wolves have had some success and are dubbed "giant killers" for adopting a low-block and counter-attacking style. But they're not top-4 contenders.
West Ham were steered to victory in the Europa Conference league by David Moyes and he is a notably defensive, pragmatic coach.
Also, in the 22/23 Champions league, 3 of the 4 Premier League clubs in the competition have lower GA/90 (goals against per 90) stats than Atletico:
- Atletico: 1.50
- Liverpool: 1.50
- Chelsea: 0.90
- Tottenham: 0.88
- Manchester City: 0.38
The eventual winners of the Champions League last year was of course City, with a total number of goals conceded of just 5 in a total of 1170 minutes of play. Atletico conceded 9 in only 540 minutes.
I don't think Simeone knows what he's talking about.
Chelsea FC face new questions over how Roman Abramovich funded success (summary of article below 👇)
www.theguardian.com Chelsea FC face new questions over how Roman Abramovich funded success
Leaked files reveal secret payments that may have breached football’s strict ‘financial fair play’ rules
- Leaked files reveal Chelsea FC received a series of secret payments worth tens of millions of pounds over 10 years from former owner Roman Abramovich. These may have breached football financial rules.
- The payments appear to be connected to player transfers and contracts for Eden Hazard, Willian, Samuel Eto'o, and manager Antonio Conte among others.
- The payments were routed through offshore companies and some may not have been properly declared to football authorities. This could violate financial fair play rules and regulations on accurate financial reporting.
- Experts say the Premier League could punish Chelsea with point deductions if rules were broken to gain an unfair advantage. The league, FA, and UEFA are investigating.
- There are also revelations around Abramovich secretly funding efforts to challenge financial fair play rules in court. And suspicious payments to the owner of Anzhi Makhachkala before Chelsea bought Willian and Eto'o from that club.
- Chelsea says
Same for me but using Geddit. Also finally exploring Mastodon for a replacement for match threads.
Both are part of the fediverse so not mutually exclusive.
You can start a match thread on Mastodon and mention the handle of this community in the post (@football@lemmy.world) and it'll not only start a thread on Mastodon, but also here. Comments added on Masto will appear in the thread here and vice versa. Likes on Masto will appear as upvotes here and upvotes here appear as likes on Masto. It's quite cool. You can tell when a post originated from Mastodon because it has that little rainbow fediverse icon on it.
If you follow a Lemmy community on Masto, the posts will appear as boosts in your timeline.
Here's a thread I started on Masto but is also on the !coys@lemmy.world community:
https://lemmy.world/post/8197032
All the comments were added from Mastodon, not Lemmy.
This is a thread I posted here directly from Mastodon:
https://lemmy.world/post/7968059
More details on how all this works here: https://vijayprema.com/using-lemmy-from-my-existing-mastodon/
It's not the calls that are the problem. In the Tottenham Chelsea game the decisions were all correct in the end (pretty much). It's all the waiting around that's the problem. It ruins the flow and enjoyment of the game. I don't know anyone at this point that thinks VAR has improved the game. Fans of clubs in the Championship often tell me they prefer no VAR.
Yeah, experience from moderating over at !coys@lemmy.world is that you've just got to keep posting and posting and posting and gradually, very slowly, the numbers creep up. Same on Mastodon on the #MastodonFC and #COYS tags (can't speak for other clubs). You've got to give people a reason to come back.
Personally, I'm not sure the individual posts containing a single goal from a specific match is helping much. Makes the community seem very noisy. IMO would be better to have one thread per match with goals posted as comments. But I'm not mod here and others may feel differently, so ¯(ツ)_/¯
FWIW, I don't see the community as dead. I post a few things here and there's often a good number of votes and some good discussion. Seems far from dead to me.
They’ll need to come up with some strategies for keeping warm while waiting an indeterminate amount of time while waiting for VAR.
In American Football they use stationary bikes to keep warm.
https://bikehike.org/why-do-nfl-players-use-stationary-bike/
Yeah, he did say, "I was half-tempted to throw some balls out there for them to kick around". It's right there in the quote I posted.
They'll need to come up with some strategies for keeping warm while waiting an indeterminate amount of time while waiting for VAR.
So not bullshit at all then.
Ali Gold asked Postecoglou: Is there a chance that the amount of waiting around players are doing now with VAR can lead to more muscle injuries?
www.football.london Every word Ange Postecoglou said on Van de Ven, Maddison and January transfers
Here's every single word the Tottenham Hotspur head coach said ahead of the Premier League match at Wolves on Saturday afternoon
Postecoglou: "Absolutely. I am not going to draw a direct correlation to Micky's injury but I was half-tempted to throw some balls out there for them to kick around. It's the reason we have warm-ups but if you're going into a game, the fact there was only 47 minutes of game time the other night in whatever it was, 110, that is not ideal for the type of athletes we have out there"
That's the disgrace right there. All this waiting around is likely harming the players.
Is the argument trash, though?
Rio Ferdinand's Between The Lines ft. Ange Postecoglou | Media Training, Tactics and Harry Kane Void
100% agree the discourse should be public. Good point.
Flav on TalkSPORT on Arteta's outburst. Is he right? What do you think?
He makes a lot of sense. Unless managers (and fans) proactively act together, and have a calm and ongoing dialogue nothing will improve. Instead, managers rant and rave post-match in a knee-jerk way and only when it goes against them. Get together and deal with it like adults. Less of the drama.
Yes, the big league with their multiple camera angles led to so much scrutiny after the games, VAR felt somewhat inevitable. I'd like to see it radically scaled back. Goal line technology is fine. But get rid of the ridiculous offside checks and the debatable handballs and let the game flow. There's an argument emerging too that all the standing around waiting for decisions can lead to injuries as muscles cool and stiffen.
'One of the most mind-boggling Premier League games ever'
www.bbc.co.uk 'One of the most mind-boggling Premier League games ever'
Tottenham's unbeaten Premier League run came to an end in chaotic fashion but the loss leaves Ange Postecoglou with a mountain of unexpected problems, writes Phil McNulty.
cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/7914713
BBC Chief football writer Phil McNulty pieces through the carnage.
Interested to know what the neutral's view of this match was, especially Ange's comments after the game.
“It’s who we are, mate. Even with five men, we’ll have a go.”
https://www.football.london/tottenham-hotspur-fc/news/every-word-ange-postecoglou-said-28057867
Have you been involved in as crazy a game as that before?
No, but I think it's going to become the norm. It's where the game's heading. Unfortunately it's how we're going to have to watch and participate in football from now on because... look I've said it before, I don't like it. I don't like the standing around. I don't like the whole theatre around waiting for decisions.
But I know that I'm in the wilderness with that. I'm on my own. In my 26 years I was always prepared to accept the referee's decisions, good, bad or otherwise, and I've had some shockers in my career let me tell you. I've h
The final was a great match for sure. It's just all else associated with that tournament was terrible.
Most? According to what survey? I don't know of a single person that thought it was, overall, a good WC. I'd wager most people would put it down as one of the least memorable in living history. It was dreadful, and players came back to the Premier League knackered and injured. Worst WC ever.
That is fucking ridiculous and a disgrace. It was shit in Qatar in the middle of winter and it'll be shit in Saudi. What a joke. The levels of bribery and corruption in world football now is incredible.
I don't think Haaland coming second is a fair representation of his stature as a striker enjoying the fruits of exceptional service. He's notably worse when Rodri and KDB aren't playing. The fact that goal scorers like Haaland get votes highlights what a weird award Ballon d'Or is. The focus should be on the team award with secondary individual awards for best positions (best 9, best 10, best wingers, 6, fullbacks, centrebacks, and gk).
Is Son one of the best finishers EVER? Let's look at some data. 👇
cross-posted from: https://mastodon.online/users/hallenbeck/statuses/111293316231491706
I've made an updated graphic based on feedback. Thanks to @nooeh@lemmy.world for the critique. Updated graphic here:
https://thelastboyscout.uk/assets/img/son_xg_stats.webp
Is Son one of the best finishers EVER? Let's look at some data. 👇
We use actual goals minus expected goals (xG) as a proxy for finishing skill. Players who consistently score more than their xG means they are scoring goals other players would miss. Generally, only the most elite goalscorers consistently outperform their xG.
And I can find no player who consistently beats Son. It's astonishing.
Can you find anyone better at elite level?
Ange Postecoglou becomes first manager to take 23 points in their first 9 games in the Premier League. Impressive.
Son Heung-min matches Salah, Scholes, Shearer, and Henry as he moves up to FOUR Premier League Player of the Month awards
www.premierleague.com Son matches Shearer and Henry with EA SPORTS Player award
Only six players in history have won EA SPORTS Player of the Month more times than September's winner
cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/6742185
Son has won September 2023's award putting him in good company:
7: Sergio Aguero; Harry Kane
6: Steven Gerrard; Cristiano Ronaldo
5: Wayne Rooney; Robin van Persie
4: Son Heung-min; Dennis Bergkamp; Bruno Fernandes; Thierry Henry; Frank Lampard; Marcus Rashford; Mohamed Salah; Paul Scholes; Alan Shearer; Jamie Vardy
Ange Postecoglou makes Premier League Manager of the Month history
www.premierleague.com Postecoglou makes history as Barclays Manager of the Month
Spurs boss achieves Premier League first after winning September 2023's award
cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/6741946
Postecoglou has won the award for the second time in a row, making him the first manager to win in each of his first two months in the competition.
The last manager to win the first two awards of any season was Jurgen Klopp, in 2019/20, when Liverpool went on to lift the Premier League Trophy.
How Tottenham Hotspur compare to the rest of the league so far
cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/6697898
Spurs are currently top of the league. Here's a look at the relative strengths and weaknesses of the rest of the pack.
- Arsenal and City are so (boringly?) similar
- Liverpool looking most well rounded
- Villa similar to Spurs but without the press
- Brighton similar to Spurs but without the defence and counters
- Chelsea look dangerous... if they can find the net
- Newcastle worse than results would imply
- United better than results would imply
Data sourced from: https://datamb.football/teamradars/
Key to the attributes
- Goals: Goals per 90
- Attacking: Shots on target per 90, Touches in box per 90, xG per 90
- Possession: Possession %, Positional attacks per 90, Accurate passes per 90, Pass accuracy %, Avg passes per possession
- Counter: Counter-attacks per 90
- Defending: Goals conceded per 90, Shots on target against per 90
- Physicality: Duels won %, Aerial
Howard Webb addresses VAR controversy after Liverpool’s loss to Tottenham
www.standard.co.uk Webb addresses VAR controversy after Liverpool’s loss to Tottenham
Fallout continues after “significant human error”
cross-posted from: https://mastodon.online/users/hallenbeck/statuses/111212833870959361
[Evening Standard] Howard Webb addresses VAR controversy after Liverpool’s loss to Tottenham
"The PGMOL’s chief refereeing officer believes the rule that meant the game could not be pulled back after those on VAR had realised the error will be addressed."
Also, in a fit of the blazing obvious, he concludes the communications protocols need to be improved.
EURO 2028 host stadiums announced
cartilagefreecaptain.sbnation.com Tottenham Hotspur Stadium named one of 10 hosts for EURO 2028
Spurs’ ground will be one of two London stadia used for the tournament.
cross-posted from: https://mastodon.online/users/hallenbeck/statuses/111211456686009160
EURO 2028 host stadiums announced
London — Wembley Stadium (90,652)
Cardiff — Principality Stadium (73,952)
London — Tottenham Hotspur Stadium (62,322)
Manchester — Etihad Stadium (61,000)
Liverpool — Everton Stadium (52,679)
Newcastle — St James’ Park (52,305)
Birmingham — Villa Park (52,190)
Glasgow — Hampden Park (52,032)
Dublin — Aviva Stadium (51,711)
Belfast — Casement Park (34,500)
Good to see for London they chose the best two stadiums. 😁
Premier League verdicts: Top five predictions, first sacking, unpopular opinions, composite XIs of season so far
theathletic.com Premier League verdicts: Top five predictions, first sacking, unpopular opinions, best XIs
As we enter its second international break, our writers assess the first two months of the 2023-24 Premier League season
cross-posted from: https://mastodon.online/users/hallenbeck/statuses/111211305966961876
[The Athletic] Premier League verdicts: Top five predictions, first sacking, unpopular opinions, composite XIs of season so far
Oliver Kay, Carl Anka, Caoimhe O’Neill, Stuart James, and Nick Miller give their top-five predictions, most and least impressive managers, and composite XIs of the season so far.
Impressive showings for Maddison, Udogie, and Van de Ven in the combined XIs.
https://theathletic.com/4945036/2023/10/10/premier-league-predictions-sacking-transfer/
Unpaywalled: https://archive.ph/U8hyq
Socceroos manager Graham Arnold interview: Messi ‘mind games’ and kicking the s**t out of Postecoglou
theathletic.com Messi's 'mind games' and kicking the s*** out of Postecoglou - Graham Arnold interview
Australia manager Arnold will lead his side out to play at Wembley for the first time against England on Friday
cross-posted from: https://mastodon.online/users/hallenbeck/statuses/111211016834683288
[The Athletic] Socceroos manager Graham Arnold interview: Messi ‘mind games’ and kicking the s out of Postecoglou
Interesting to read some stories about Ange from an old friend and competitor.
Ange's hard-won skills in coaching players could be the (in part, at least) secret to his success.
https://theathletic.com/4945124/2023/10/10/graham-arnold-australia-postecoglou-messi/
Unpaywalled: https://archive.ph/D7ynJ
Micky van de Ven: Why Spurs defender is my (Premier League) signing of season so far — Henry Winter
cross-posted from: https://mastodon.online/users/hallenbeck/statuses/111210807240758012
[The Times] Micky van de Ven: Why Spurs defender is my signing of season so far — Henry Winter
"It is testament to Van de Ven’s qualities that he can legitimately be hailed as the most influential investment in the window. And there are several other contenders, not least his colleagues Maddison and Vicario, let alone the other buys of the summer such as Rice, Ward-Prowse, Szoboszlai, Diaby, Hojlund, Doku and Palmer."