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Jorunn (she/her) @piefed.blahaj.zone 2d ago

It won't lose efficacy. Vials last for at least a year, and can last for (at least) up to three years. Inspect them for cloudiness, particles, and discoloration.

I also recommend you just buy homebrew vials online. Those vials contain way more doses than the ones you can get prescribed, and have other advantages too.

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Jorunn (she/her) @piefed.blahaj.zone 2d ago

Woah, what is the name of the cat! :Oeepy lil baby

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Jorunn (she/her) @piefed.blahaj.zone 2d ago

Injections don't have a liver risk? It is exactly as safe as gel/patches!Gel then does sound like what you want, or a stronger spray perhaps (I think gels are just gonna be better in general than any spray)

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Jorunn (she/her) @piefed.blahaj.zone 2d ago

So the levels are from 2 spritzes a day? With how short the half life is I suppose it's possible 3 spritzes will make a difference but I'm not sure it will be enough.

Jorunn (she/her) @piefed.blahaj.zone 3d ago

You're getting a lot of different answers here.

There's no guidelines or good research on this. Doctors recommend waiting anything from 6 months to a year and a half. Sometimes it's to wait until a later tanner stage.

Ignore everything else you hear. There is no more useful information. The recent study showing prog might help with breast size started after 6 months. Everything else is guesswork or anecdotal, and our anecdotal data is very much lacking too.

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Jorunn (she/her) @piefed.blahaj.zone 3d ago

Okay so referring back to other conversations in other posts, it's clear transfemscience is right about lenzetto, and you need something different like injections, gel, or even pills. If they give you something else please come ask us about it or check transfemscience or other resources and make sure the dosages are adequate. If they are not please go somewhere else or go DIY.

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Jorunn (she/her) @piefed.blahaj.zone 3d ago

T should be reduced a bit further to like 20ish or less to be within the normal range for cis women. Your estradiol levels are very low. Generally we aim for like 400 pmol/L when on blockers, or 800 without, so you're being massively underdosed. If they refuse to meaningfully up your dose please go somewhere else or do DIY.

I would say the issue is mainly that your estradiol dosage is low. If a higher dose of E can't help with bringing your T down then your dosage of blocker needs to be a bit higher as well, or you need to make sure it's always every two months rather than three, or something like that. I assume you're getting some kind of gnrh agonist injected.

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Jorunn (she/her) @piefed.blahaj.zone 3d ago

I don’t want your damn lemons, what the hell am I supposed to do with these? I wanna see your manager! Do you know who I am? I’m the girl who’s gonna burn your house down! With the lemons! I’m gonna get my engineers to invent a combustible lemon that burns your house down!

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Jorunn (she/her) @piefed.blahaj.zone 3d ago

No

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Jorunn (she/her) @piefed.blahaj.zone 3d ago

Yes this is good advice too. It could be that you are simply better at detecting your own body hair. Could also be that the other women in your family shave or do other forms of hair removal

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Jorunn (she/her) @piefed.blahaj.zone 3d ago

Hmm. How are your blood levels?And what do you take and at which dosages?

I dunno if it's maybe possible for those hairs to have already set in earlier, or if this is a case of your androgen levels being high still.

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Jorunn (she/her) @piefed.blahaj.zone 3d ago

I looooooooove black dresses <3

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Jorunn (she/her) @piefed.blahaj.zone 4d ago

I think that preparing to transition and starting HRT might help me reach greater certainty about whether I want to continue.

Very reasonable. I started HRT specifically to see if it was right for me. It very much was!

Do you think a doctor in an informed consent context would have concerns with starting me on HRT if I said that?

Some will have a problem with this and some will understand perfectly. It's always best to lie to your doctor, which sounds like a terrible thing to say but this is the truth when you're trans. Always lie unless you for sure know they are fully supportive of the trans experience. Don't lie about everything ofc :P lie away uncertainty and the like. Some doctors in some places don't recognize non-binary people so it's unfortunately best to present as binary, unless you know they accept enbies. In some cases hamming things up is also necessary. If you only care about HRT you can also fully bypass doctors and do HRT on your own. I do this. I only go to doctors to get regular blood tests.

Also, is it fair to say that I can probably look androgynous or plausibly cisgender (especially with effort - if I had a need to) for a year or two after starting HRT?

Maybe. I started around 30 and I think I could pass with great effort now after two years on HRT. A big part of it is actually hair removal as well. You should also start looking into voice training if your goal is to pass. It requires a lot of effort and takes a lot of time, so start looking at it now. Maybe find a voice therapist.

Edit: Results vary a lot. It depends mostly on genetics, and then there's stuff like make-up and clothes and all that. Exercise can help you as well.

In that case, is there any sort of detox/withdrawal, pain, or significant health-related complications associated with stopping HRT?

Your testicles will atrophy somewhat on estrogen, but tmk they always start up testosterone production again when not suppressed.
You will suffer from some very temporary menopause like symptoms when you stop taking HRT.
A lot of people experience dysphoria from being on the wrong hormone, and once they go back to testosterone they start feeling that dysphoria again.
If you don't have enough sex hormones over a long time there can be negative effects such as osteoporosis. You won't suffer this if you still have your testicles.
The effects of testosterone will return once you're back on testosterone. This means masculine fat distribution, more body hair, masculine smell and sweat, etc etc
Estrogens and androgens have different risk profiles, which means while on female sex hormones you will be more predisposed to the things cis women tend to be predisposed to and visa versa. Not really a complication, but something to be aware of.

Reversibility

You have a lot of questions about HRT. I very much suggest you read this: https://genderdysphoria.fyi/enIt's a great guide and explanation for a lot of stuff, including what hormones do to you.

As for the penis. Testosterone maintains the penis via random erections which you will no longer have, or at least, way less random erections. This means if you wish to stop atrophy you must induce them yourself. You can also use topical testosterone gel or cream, but be aware that this will likely increase your blood testosterone levels in general. But it's an option.

I hope this answers some of your questions! <3

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Jorunn (she/her) @piefed.blahaj.zone 4d ago

unfortunately not true. or well, it's probably not so easy to compare actually. technically any doctor can prescribe hrt, and any doctor can give you a diagnosis and sign off on surgery. an issue we face in scandinavia is that few doctors actually do this and you're forced to go to certain transmedicalist hospitals that do all they can to do as little as possible for as few as possible. Unless you find an alternative ofc

Jorunn (she/her) @piefed.blahaj.zone 5d ago

Probably a headless sever as well!

edit: whoops, *server

Jorunn (she/her) @piefed.blahaj.zone 5d ago

Lmao they think the reason there's no young people in their ranks is because they had to stay underground to avoid transfems. This feels like a nothing burger tbh