The conservatives want the GST off ALL new homes. The liberals just want the GST of First time home buyers buying new homes. The conservatives plan is just a 5% break for rich people buying houses, the liberals housing plan might actually see the new houses being built as affordable for first time home buyers over 30yrs with 5% down.

That's why I'm intrigued by Carney proposing the build Canada homes company..... Will be interesting to see since we did something like that during WW2 that saw the feds build the housing and set the price?

Yet those same people were screeching about how Trudeau was making healthcare worse and that the childcare deal "was a waste of money". Mother fuckers your province MANAGES THAT SHIT

THANK YOU. Nothing stood out more to me over the last 5+ years then people who are completely ignorant of how our government is structured and who manages what and who is responsible for what.

And surprise, nobody fucking understood that healthcare, education, infrastructure, and housing (until the last two years) are ALL provincial responsibilities. And yet people refuse to vote in provincial elections or pay attention to them, and keep voting in conservatives who refuse to expand public healthcare, cut education, and spend frivolous amounts of money on Infrastructure thats for the fossil fuel industry. 🙄

Which is.... What the liberals are proposing aswell? See, the liberals and the NDP and every other party except the conservatives have the bandwidth to actually do multiple things at once. Bring the rate of immigration down and raise the rate of home building up, and then we can slowly increase immigration for those who have the skills we need

I believe the foreign temporary worker program was definately being abused and that's what they were talking about.... Regular immigration is not bad and Canada needs it desperately

I don't think the liberals are just offering talking points. They are talking unity, which is what we need right now, and even before Carney the liberals were taking strides to fix our problems but you were all just eating up instagram and tiktok reels with Pierre spitting bullshit at you like: THE CARBON TAX ELECTION

Yeah prefabrication is the way to go to accelerate tonthebratebof houses we need right now

Well sure he's guilty, but uhhhh, death penalty worthy? Idk

Hoser

They're just lazy and/or bots

With the increasing of construction there is an immediate need to invest in tradespeople. That isn't something missing from the liberals, every party is on the same page in that regard. The cutting of GST on first time home buyers and easing municipal bylaws and taxes on homes will lower construction costs. If they want to have funding by the government to connect their new housing plans to existing infrastructure as to lessen the burden on the municipalities and the costs taken on by the builder, fine, as long as they state that this must be for affordable or have a profit cap on the construction of that home that has been able to be built by the federal funds used.

I'll tell first hand that the construction industry is fucking greedy and they are liars. We will price a job out and jack the mark up to 20-30, even 40%%, and they are still going up, because they are all in agreement. That they can ride the gravy train of "things just keep getting more expensive".

This debate just highlighted that any working class conservatives who are fed up with the liberals, should be voting for the NDP.... And any richer, upper middle class conservatives should be voting for the liberals, and only the goddamn greediest mother fuckers would want the conservatives to win. They refuse to acknowledge that we cannot spend the next 10 years building a fucking 4000km pipeline for oil to the east coast.... We don't NEED to ship oil out east, we need to ship oil out west if anything.

Anyways, the debate was very good and really gave us a good look at the party leaders. But I just see Carney as being the guy for those middle of the road conservatives who are socially progressive but fiscally conservative, especially after ten year of JT.

All these complaints about the delivery of these programs are on the provinces. They are the ones who administer it, so that's their fault but people don't seem to be getting that through their thick ass skulls and instead hear Pierre talk about how more spending on these things is what's making everything more expensive and they're buying it. Pharmacare is something that has just been getting going and being signed onto in various provinces within the last year, dental care has now been expanded to all those households that make 90K after taxes IF their province has agreed to the program.

Because that's how Canada works at its core, it is run by the provinces in almost every facet of your daily life. And the federal government is there to fund and protect them and the environment and handle indigenous relations... This is a very serious disconnect in how the people of this country think it functions.

It's 2025. Letting the foundation now would indeed set us up to be ready by 2050 and beyond...

Oh believe me it's already something I'm actively looking out for. Just closing on mine and my wife's first house, changing jobs, election etc, so much going on and it's just.... Yeah it's one of those times in your life where you just move on with who you hangout with and who you want to hangout with. People grow and should grow.

I believe it was clearly meant to be 21st century lol

Plus Pierre just wants to remove the GST on ALL new homes, not just for first time home buyers (who aren't really buying a new home anyways). BUT, with Carney's plan to rapidly increase the construction of homes and make them denser, with new methods and materials, of done correctly, could mean that a first time homebuyer a few years from now COULD potentially buy one of those new houses/townhouses.

He also understands that you must spur the private capital investment into these sectors with public money, but not to fund in completely. We need to build affordable housing yes, but we just need to make the construction of houses cheaper overall. And for home to say we're going to use Canadian lumber only will help our lumber industry during this Turbulent trade situation with our biggest customer.

It will create jobs, create growth, and create a more affordable life overall with their housing plan. Pierre is a free market radical meanwhile Carney wants to harness that free market potential and concentrate it to work FOR us. Hence his book "Values" which I highly recommend anyone reading this to check out, even in audio form. This dude is the guy every conservative has been whining for, an economic juggernaut to build Canada for the 21st century

A liberal government propped up by the NDP saw us have one of the best COVID recoveries out of the developed world. It saw us get childcare, pharmacare, dentalcare, and the first home savings account. They made student loans interest free, gave more tax breaks to the working class and produced a school foods program.... Would you say these are not all monumental achievements that most developed nations in Europe has had for decades?

That's is true, but honestly I know VERY few people irl that actually own books other than their textbooks from college or uni. They all scroll and get their news and Infor from Instagram or tiktok. It's fucked and makes me incredibly worried about the future and it being full of people with the attention span of a walnut

Bingo. Alas all they consume is brain rot