With US track record a majority if not all of those 53 people were civilians

The Houthi’s are enforcing their ban on ships headed to or from Israel to enter Yemen’s water territory. They did this as a sanction on Israel because Israel is committing genocide on the Palestinian people. When the US and European countries started bombing Yemen for enforcing their law, they also banned US and some European ships from entering their waters. During the ceasefire they lifted the blockade, and since Israel ended the ceasefire they started banning ships again.

If that were true they would’ve had peace long ago. https://decolonizepalestine.com/myth/israel-has-always-sought-peace/

Everyone wants ‘peace’, but you should ask people what peace means. For Israelis, peace means that every Palestinian is either murdered or forcably removed from their land. For Palestinians, peace means that they are allowed to move freely within Palestine and have the same rights as Israelis.

Without military resistance Palestine would not exist. Israel has always been clear about their intention to wipe out all of Palestine. There was never a moment where Palestinians could stop Israel from invading in any other way than fighting back.

https://decolonizepalestine.com/myth/israel-has-always-sought-peace/

This is a very small minority of Gazans. Most Gazans know that Hamas is the only party standing in the way of a full ground operation of the genocidal forces into Gaza. When Palestinians are no longer facing genocide they can start demanding a government that represents every Palestinian, until then they don’t have that luxury.

You can always find people of any group to agree with any statement (especially if they’re already watching an ableist person). Which is why I’m telling you to seek out actual disabled communities. They often have advocacy and activist subgroups who can tell you a lot about ableism, its impact on disabled people and effective activism against it.

Real life discourse is very different from online discourse, and real life is where actual activism is done and changes are made.

All your arguments are based on claims that are guesses or just plainly untrue. This not not a serious discussion. It makes sense that your sources and ‘experiences’ come from vaush and twitter. Touch grass, talk to some experienced antifascist activists and maybe read some books.

Edit: and maybe reach out to a disabled community (in a respectful manner) to learn about how ableist language impacts them.

The normalisation of words like ‘stupid’ does have real life consequences to people with learning disabilities. Any time you use that word or similar words, you are not only insulting the person it’s directed at, but you’re also insulting all people with a learning disability by insinuating that they are in some way inferior, because according to you their disability is an insult in and of itself. You will not gain any sympathy from the disabled community by normalising those words. You’re pushing them away and throwing them under the bus to be targeted first.

‘Weird’ is not an equivalent word because it doesn’t define a group of people in the same way. Walz’s usage of the word ‘weird’ wasn’t to insult transphobes. It was a correct assessment that republicans are way too interested in controlling the personal lives of trans people in a way that most people would (and should) be weirded out by. It’s weird (and creepy) to find a stranger in your bedroom in the same way that it’s weird (and creepy) to have a stranger tell you how you should dress, behave and look. It’s an argument that has substance, compared to the empty argument of saying that a transphobe person is of ‘low intelligence’, especially when that’s often not even the source of their transphobia.

Substantive arguments are always better than non substantive ‘mean’ arguments as you call them. You’re not arguing to convince a nazi, you’re arguing to convince a bystander that a nazi is dangerous. A bystander needs an actual reason to be convinced, not a few mean words.

You claim a lot about antifascist strategy but your claims are not supported by historical evidence. The strongest antifascist factions have always been those that seek unity within oppressed groups. Tailism just leads to division.

It’s called tailism and it’s throwing disabled people under the bus because you can’t find a better argument that the person you perceive as bad is actually bad.

You’d rather normalise ableist language to prevent the nazi’s from coming after you than make allies in disabled communities.

Edit: just to add, tailism is not even effective. Nazi’s promote it to pit marginalised groups against each other.

Calling something or someone ‘stupid’ is just evading actual criticism. The fact is that nazi’s and anti-vaxers aren’t necessarily ‘stupid’. And people with learning disabilities are often neither anti vax nor nazi.

Nazi’s are evil because they want to remove queer people, non-white people, disabled people etc from society (probably by either killing or enslaving them).

Anti-vaxers are either dangerously misinformed or so arrogant that they think they know better than scientists who studied years to understand the human immune system.

You being neurodivergent doesn’t mean you can decide when ableism is or isn’t okay. The rules of this community are pretty clear about not allowing ableism.

Unrelated, but if being ableist is the only way you can criticise a group of people then maybe you just shouldn’t.

Several people are commenting that it is ableist. If you need an explanation then here is one I could find in a few minutes of searching: https://nicocoer.tumblr.com/post/4040763038/content-warnings-for-use-of-ableist-and

People with learning disabilities are frequently stereotyped and ridiculed with exactly the same language & body language op is using to portray the ‘tankie’. Imo it’s no different than using the r word.

Hmm yes, using ableist language to dunk on the evil tankies.

Antizionist jewish voices are being silenced by Western media. How many articles have you read about jewish people who are afraid of anti genocide protesters, and how many articles have you read about antizionist jewish people angry about the genocide? I can assure you that the proportion of antizionist jews is much bigger than what Western media would make you think. Their crimes and complicity will come to light at some point.

Genocide wasn’t enough apparently

What kind of results do they censor?

Like hayfever? Oof

Don’t you guys call this ‘whataboutism’? Anyways, I’m less concerned with China than the US since China hasn’t dropped a single bomb in decades while the US drops dozens a day in the middle east.