PhilipTheBucket

@ PhilipTheBucket @piefed.social

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2mo ago

How do people actually fall into the "Tankie" mindset?
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PhilipTheBucket @piefed.social 2mo ago
"Communities"
Top community: 15 subscribers, 5 users/month
I rest my case

2mo ago

And then there's this idiot:

I'll ask the question which I already know from experience to be tankie kryptonite:

What sources, to you, are reliable? Wikipedia? Al Jazeera? UN reports? Something else? What could I point to, that you would believe after I pointed to it?

Because their whole worldview is based on groupthink and hostility, they won't answer this question. Because they know what the next step would be as soon as they admitted some particular source into the equation and let the conversation become grounded in reality...

2mo ago

How do people actually fall into the "Tankie" mindset?

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PhilipTheBucket @piefed.social 2mo ago

This goes for almost any obnoxious behavior on the internet. It's about 5-10% of people who are just assholes (of whatever description), and everyone else is fine. It only seems like the whole place is jerks because of how noisy the jerks are, and how skilled they are at amping up the normal people into noisy arguments that go nowhere.

Any time you're in one of those comments sections, take a step back and look at the number of people who are actually initiating the dickishness and you'll see that it's a tiny tiny minority.

2mo ago

wow

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PhilipTheBucket @piefed.social 2mo ago

Alan Moore said that Rorschach came about because of trying to imagine to himself what type of mental disorders someone would have to have in order to become a "masked superhero" along the lines of Batman, what their home life would be like, that sort of thing.

See also the movie "Super," which is criminally under-awarenessed-of.

2mo ago

it's just human nature

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PhilipTheBucket @piefed.social 2mo ago

Meaning "presence in blood."

2mo ago

"Ha ha, I don't believe in tankies, I've never even seen a tankie" - UnderpantsWeevil immediately above a tankie denying the Tienanmen Square Massacre

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PhilipTheBucket @piefed.social 2mo ago

Show me a liberal who is actually pro-Vietcong. Find me one Democrat who praised them.

You didn't accuse "Democrats" of supporting the US forces in Vietnam. You accused me of supporting them.

This is a super nifty example of the type of no-true-Scotsman stuff that the right type of propaganda framing can enable, though. By shifting the conversation to "liberals" and "pro-Vietcong", you can shift the conversation away from the totally bonkers-pants things you actually said (how can you support BOTH the pro-democracy demonstrations in China but NOT the Vietnamese right to self determination which I OBVIOUSLY know you do not, because I have a totally insane caricature of you which also includes supporting anything at all about the US's invasion of Vietnam or any opposition whatsoever to the Vietnamese fucking defending themselves!) and into an argument which by the definitions involved, literally cannot be disproven in any way.

"Liberals" have all these characteristics you say, according to you. Particular people can be painted as "liberals," and someone who has a sensible opinion about Vietnam (which includes about 60-70% of the people in the US, at this point, and pretty much 100% of the people you will talk with on Lemmy) simply don't count. You already know they're "liberals," so you know what they think, and what they actually think is totally irrelevant from a standpoint of doing the argumentation.

2mo ago

lololol, tankies upset over how popular this community is

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PhilipTheBucket @piefed.social 2mo ago

One of the most important tasks in any propaganda framework is defining the words appropriately.

In particular, the word for "enemy" needs to be carefully chosen.

2mo ago

pre-commit hooks are fundamentally broken

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PhilipTheBucket @piefed.social 2mo ago

EDIT: I’ll add that, IMO, hooks should never modify files. They should simply check that your code meets whatever requirements you want your code-base to meet

This, I think, is the way. This is also how I've seen it in every actual real project I've encountered, and I sort of wish they would make it a little more clear what is the command I can run to make the checks pass by doing an auto-format or whatever, but yes I agree that the author should have spent a little more time on explaining what the actual solution is.

2mo ago

"Ha ha, I don't believe in tankies, I've never even seen a tankie" - UnderpantsWeevil immediately above a tankie denying the Tienanmen Square Massacre

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PhilipTheBucket @piefed.social 2mo ago

the Vietcong resisting US/French occupation (boo!)

It's fucking wild to me that you think the people you're talking to here supported the US in the Vietnam War. Absolutely fucking wild.

2mo ago

Sad little butthurt .ml admin strikes again!

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PhilipTheBucket @piefed.social 2mo ago

I already cancelled my donation to the Lemmy devs, long long ago.

I do agree with other people here, lemmy.world is also shit. I was just thinking about this whole conversation earlier today, featuring a lemmy.world mod overtly lying about how and why they were banning people who didn't want propaganda in their feed but not banning the propaganda user (using such sterling logic as "we never got reports on this spammy user before" and then doing a Dale Gribble smoke-bomb when asked whether they'd gotten previous reports on the users they did decide to ban, who were complaining about the spam/propaganda).

2mo ago

"Ha ha, I don't believe in tankies, I've never even seen a tankie" - UnderpantsWeevil immediately above a tankie denying the Tienanmen Square Massacre

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PhilipTheBucket @piefed.social 2mo ago

Those pesky violent students. I know whenever students go up against the country's military, the military gets gunned down like some Blair Mountain Miners. Hundreds of them die, and of course they have to shoot some of the students, but they always come out the worst of it. It's always the way, it's just sad that it had to happen in China of all places.

2mo ago

"Ha ha, I don't believe in tankies, I've never even seen a tankie" - UnderpantsWeevil immediately above a tankie denying the Tienanmen Square Massacre

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PhilipTheBucket @piefed.social 2mo ago

Oh! I forgot, IndustryStandard also said "it literally did not happen on video" in the comment right below yours.

2mo ago

"Ha ha, I don't believe in tankies, I've never even seen a tankie" - UnderpantsWeevil immediately above a tankie denying the Tienanmen Square Massacre

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PhilipTheBucket @piefed.social 2mo ago

@underpantsweevil@lemmy.world

Happy to name some names:

participating in Tienanmen revisionism to glorify that time when students violently attempted to create a counter-revolution and killed 200 soldiers while the US cheered them on hoping for another color revolution.

-@freagle@lemmygrad.ml (link)

Everything I’ve said happened, protesters lynching police and police gunning down protesters in the streets surrounding the square, is reflected in the wikipedia article, the only thing that I’ve denied, that masses of unarmed students were gunned down and run over by tanks in the square, is proven false in the tankman video, which I linked.

-@alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml (link)

The Chinese Communist Party has its own version of Limited Hangout and goes to some length to assert that the riots in Tienanmen were the result of outside agitation, the civilian death toll was minimal, and the reforms that followed succeeded in restoring trust in the national government.

-@UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world (link)

Then of course there is dessalines from the sticky post. I think that covers every element of toolshed's progression with some amount of overlap.

This is a little tangential but also funny. In the course of this I found:

.ml very often features criticism about Russia and/or China without being removed. Case in point the Tienanmen square posts yesterday and today. But because it also allows viewpoints which .world users have never experienced in their life they can’t help it but start a shit-slinging contest in comment sections.

-Linkerbaan@lemmy.world, click the link for punchline

2mo ago

Davel questioning whether deportations of ethnic minorities happened under Stalin

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PhilipTheBucket @piefed.social 2mo ago

"Hey so if killing Nazis is the metric, then the US and Britain must be super good guys too. They killed a bunch of Nazis too when they were allied with the Soviets, all a big Nazi killing party."

"HOW DARE, that was different, only applies when I want it to apply"

2mo ago

Amazon faces ‘leader’s dilemma’ — fight AI shopping bots or join them

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PhilipTheBucket @piefed.social 2mo ago

It’s a trend that poses a threat to Amazon’s margins and relationships with customers. When a consumer uses ChatGPT to initiate a purchase, for example, OpenAI collects “a small fee” from each transaction.
“With an agent on ChatGPT, retailers risk relinquishing transactions on their site to pay a toll on someone else’s highway for the same transaction,” Sucharita Kodali, a retail analyst at Forrester, said in an interview.

Gee, Mr. Amazon, that sounds terrible. Only some kind of monster would make you pay a "small" fee for every single transaction between two third parties, just because they set up a server to have it take place on. I'm so sorry that that happened to you.

2mo ago

Dbzer0 admin is 'ashamed' about 'warfare' between instances (read: .ml being criticized) as one of the tankie admins of .ml literally defends genocide and the socialist-crushing incident tankies were

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PhilipTheBucket @piefed.social 2mo ago

It's not just that it is hosted there, it's that this particular admin is active in the community and super passionate about constantly browbeating "shitlibs" which in his cosmology is most of the instances on Lemmy.

2mo ago

I love the pattern of collecting, then spending resources. What to play?

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PhilipTheBucket @piefed.social 2mo ago

Noita has some of this nature. Your "weapon" for the game is whatever you can find and cobble together, some expendable resources and some just permanent abilities or upgrades. You might do one run with a wand that shoots a limited number of nice powerful balanced spells, or you might find a way to abuse the system and get an unlimited firehose weapon of such unimaginable power that it throws you around the screen like Sonic the Hedgehog whenever you hold down the trigger, or you might assemble a shockingly powerful explosive weapon that will probably wind up ending your run when you get careless and it kills you. No two runs are the same and you're constantly having to figure out how to make the best of what you've got. It is a difficult game, though. The ceiling for how powerful you can make your own abilities is very high, because you can put together some abusive combinations, but in the later levels the enemies are insanely unfairly powerful to compensate.

It's a blast. In my opinion.

2mo ago

Google's mail system helpfully classified this notice of a class action settlement AGAINST GOOGLE as spam

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PhilipTheBucket @piefed.social 2mo ago

They do it because users' brains are like those of the lizard or planarium. They want to "punish" the email they just got because it annoyed them, and so they press whatever button will give them the closest equivalent of "punching" the email to try to make it stop.

Marking the email minutes from the weekly team meeting as "spam" doesn't make it stop, and creates other problems sometimes, but that's not the level they are operating on when they do it. (There is some accidental sense in which marking something as spam makes Google marginally more likely to put similar stuff into your "spam" folder in the future, but that's pure coincidence as far as why they're doing it.) They just want to hit.

It's actually exactly the same reason some Lemmy users call anything or anyone they don't like "transphobia" or "zionism." They don't actually mean that that person supports the state of Israel in a literal sense. They're just doing it because they can't physically hit the person speaking, and that's the closest analogue available to punish them and try to shut them up.

2mo ago

Favorite game to play? (Besides doom?)

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PhilipTheBucket @piefed.social 2mo ago

I'm not sure how good the quality level and balance are compared to the original (I haven't played the modded version), but you may be interested in the multiverse mod.

2mo ago

Favorite game to play? (Besides doom?)

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PhilipTheBucket @piefed.social 2mo ago

Once you've played FTL and Celeste, you start hearing both of their background musics constantly in soft background music for streamer videos and similar places.