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MizuTama [he/him, any]

@ MizuTama @hexbear.net

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  • Maybe I'm misrepresenting some stuff as a lot of this is off memory but from what I heard out of Philly, factionalist infighting was so common there used to "beef" over who had "rights" for protests, rallies etc. Complaints about people trying to "usurp" a protest etc. were common and sometimes it was bad enough to be noticed by those outside of any of the dozen of orgs. A mutual sign-on with most of the common nominal socialist formations which has become more common in the last year or so has seen less of this which is why I found the development interesting. Is it a *strong *development that indicates the US is on the cusp of revolution? Hardly. But I don't think I know a single person that thinks we're where we need to be. But it's an getting past the point of thinking eating paint chips is good nutritional advice.

    I also know several of the orgs do work together fairly often. the Philly DSA, FRSO, PSL, WWP, PAAPR (Though for anyone that's in the know NAAPR org is heavily mixed with FRSO so depending on how intertwined the Philly Chapters are that could be essentially the same membership signed on twice) and Palestine Coalition I've heard of working together on various smaller projects to various degrees for a while now, so just being a sign on is something that I don't know necessarily applies here.

    Tangential to the idea, I do believe there is a bit of a focus on "socialist membership" numbers that is an error committed by many on the left here considering much smaller communist organizations did much more under more repressive regimes. But I think that is people trying to cope with the lack of other types mass organizations in the US, and essentially trying to create mass socialist orgs to supplant them. (I'm dubious of that strategy since it lacks the militant power and working class governance experience of labor/tenant unions, the relief and agitation value of mutual aid groups etc. But it's an observation I've had for a while and feels related towards the desire for a singularly encompassing left entity to subsume them all).

  • From what I've seen one of the most important things for advancing struggle is doing something with correct timing. The timing here seems to be dialed in.

  • Have you considered the need for my particular Post-Maoist neo-formation as the last bastion of socialism?! /s

    In all seriousness, that is the depressing part, from what I've seen at a local level where I'm at half the work for things like ICE watch, mutual aid, etc. sees a bunch of different orgs from radlib to commie having to work on finding ways to work together and cooperate on different structures. Something that wouldn't be needed with something more consolidated or even if there was a more formalized united front. Seems like the squeeze of the current administration is almost forcing these groups closer together, but that has the downside of the ramped insanity of the current administration.

  • What a mood NGL. I often feel the same thing when looking at our current state of affairs.

  • Things are looking interesting lately in Philly for the left. Here was the org sign on for a recent Hands Off Venezuela Rally:

  • They've been around and popping up in my feed for a over a year now doing food program stuff. The guns are a new addition though.

    Edit: They also have videos advocating for getting black youth that are illegal owners to get into legal compliance and do safety training.

    I heard they talk with and have worked with some other left orgs and I've heard they're cool, but that part is like 4th hand info so grain of salt on that.

  • I've known about this formation from their food program for a bit as well as getting into verbal confrontation with pigs in the past. They're the first formalized group I know of showing up armed to rallies though. Also thank god for trigger discipline, I wince when I look at pics of the original Panthers sometimes.

  • Which is extra wild with Trump himself saying it's a suitable term.

  • So... 2b2t will have breached containment. That'll go well, they already created insane bots that regularly wrecked thousands of servers while in containment just testing them.

  • Always funny seeing people say that for open-source stuff.

  • Needed to make that call gng.

  • Liking Zohran and hating AOC is not the result of coherent analysis

    I will say there is the odd possibility of them just hoping a social imperialist executive vs legislator can get some of the treats running again to stave off fervor, thus improving their lives for a blip of time even if it otherwise doesn't progress things.

    i.e there might be analysis but the analysis is opportunistic in nature. It's why I've joked about it being American first "socialism"

  • Yeah, basically this. Most data suggests a large portion of Americans aren't exactly big on trump. Criticizing him is good small talk— or agitation with specific issues—but isn't a tactical question. If you convince a DSA type that no social-chauvinism isn't the path forward then you have someone who touches grass and talks to people doing it to build worker power instead of just canvas for a social-imperialist.

  • Yeah but the person above is arguing directly against that, saying no great man could save this.

    Some do have that reasoning, and they are people being disillusioned from their liberalism. Others are tired of what they see as the praising of blatant opportunism.

    I.e some want a great person to rise up and create the party and are upset when betrayed, and others are tired of seeing, "the Mensheviks are the way!"

    But this topic doesn't just concern the "Great Man" when these debates pop up, as this often is the result of genuine organizating efforts. If a Mamdani administration doesn't do much to advance a socialist cause, harms it, etc. that is thousands who spent months of effort backing an opportunist cause instead of something that may actually advance struggle, and desiring to prevent that in anyway is obvious. Not every critic is productive of course, but it is something worth struggling over as it is a fundamental question of tactics.

  • Oh, I agree but from what I've seen whining in the direction of DSA at least gets them to have some struggles sessions (or at the bare least argue if something may be right), Like how some of their chapters/caucuses are signed onto a letter calling for Zohran to dump Tisch. So if we're arguing a "the complaining should have value," argument, complaining about DSA types has more use. If the view is the complaining is pointless and just venting the DSA SIOs are can at least be whined about with mental spiraling and the call to adventure. Also, there is something about someone proclaiming to be of the same viewpoint as you then staunching acting against that which can be especially grating in comparison to them calling themselves something entirely different. It's why you see dozens of people constantly polemicizing against national socialism, national Bolshevism, ACP-types, in a way they don't MAGA. If a fascist goes "I'm a fascist" vs. "I'm a communist" you only are going to need to argue with one of those statements.

  • Very correct lol.

  • The assertion above is he will be useless once he is in, and Stalin/Lenin/Mao would be just as useless come January if you dropped them in his position and told them their goal was a socialist mayorality.

  • Counterpoints:

    1. DSA types actually occasionally read and have chapter adjustments and realignments from these complaints
    2. The types of complaints we levy about Trump types and the solutions to that get mods on us for "fedposting" (A shitposter can't be a fed? I thought this was a left space! its tradition!)
  • The comic did a lot of elevating for The Greatest Estate Developer, iirc his personality is pretty different and more bogstandard isekai chump in the novel, but still within the Korean versions standard.

  • Ya know things are fucked when the best you got are U.S anti-imperialist solidarity.