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Community Rules and The Elephant in the Room
Hello fellow humans. I am posting today to address two topics:
As we round 2000 subscribers, it is time to define some rules for the community.
Many of you have probably noticed that the discussions have, at times, become heated and in some cases personal. As a fallible and emotional human, I too have been involved in this, and I want to define rules for myself as much as for everyone else.
So, the simplest solution is to "borrow" the subreddit rules. However, there are some rules that I do not think apply here and I have removed them and tuned the remainder. For instance, I think a lot of the rules about "low-effort" content may be overly restrictive and, frankly, isn't even enforced on the subreddit. This is not to say that I want to allow low-effort content, but I think the other rules cover the bases adequately (and this is true for other removals). If there is something I have left out, and you feel it is important, please comment here.
I hear you, but to be completely honest almost all of our "insult" words and phrases are derived from pretty abhorrent places. There's really no point in substituting one for the other when you're trying to tell someone you think they are stupid.
Yep, they're really coming out of the woodwork.
Those effects only occur from the perspective of, for example, Earth. If you could exert force upon a space ship traveling away from you, it would require more energy to continue to accelerate it as its speed increases relative to you. But from the reference frame of the ship, this does not hold. Now, of course it will still require an insane amount of energy to maintain a constant acceleration, but from the spaceship's perspective energy expenditure is constant (assuming the mass of the ship isn't changing due to fuel loss).
Quite simply, it is the witness testimony under oath. That is evidence by any court's definition.
Except it's not just one guy saying aliens are here, it's hundreds, and these three said it under oath unlike the scientists you speak of. Yet you believe the word of the scientists and not the word of these men. You don't see the hypocrisy there?
Ah, so then you think Bill Cosby should walk free, yes?
I'm glad we agree, because the problem is that it's hypocritical. There is a double standard for the quality of evidence that you deem acceptable between this topic and most others. You believe many things despite never seeing physical evidence or based only on the testimony of others, because those topics fit into your current world view. You have subconsciously created a filter for yourself of your biases, and you now refuse to acknowledge them.
And you clearly did not read my post?
Absurd. It falls apart as even the most basic level, because outside of communities like this most people still have no idea this is happening. It's being largely ignored by the media. Plus, hundreds of pilots have seen things and we'll see more and more come forward in the coming weeks. If the government doesn't want you to know about something, they don't have to create a diversion, they simply don't report it.
U.S. recovered non-human 'biologics' from UFO crash sites, former intel official says | NPR
No, it means "I am going to dismiss any and all evidence until such a time as it satisfies my definition of believable."
Crack cocaine, what of it?
The real answer is that it doesn't; you simply hear about it more. The other superpowers who are flying super-sonic jets around all day are much more secretive and if you think the retribution is bad here let me tell you it is worse in China or Russia. Also, people see these things with their naked eye all the time. Seriously, drive out to the mid-west and just look at the sky at night. You will see them up there, making their 90 degree turns and all. But the stigma is really so bad within our culture that people just don't talk about it, and light pollution is so bad in the cities that you can't see the sky anywhere near one.
You're saying there's no physical proof of evolution?
Now you're getting it!
Nope, but I don't go around pretending I have. You see, unlike you I am open to changing my opinion based on evidence.
Do you think, then, that we should reverse any decisions made purely on witness testimony? Grusch spent four years investigating this in his official position and is testifying under oath that he has seen incontrovertible evidence of it. That IS proof, and about as damn good testimony as we've ever had in our history.
But look, I know you're not going to change your mind, because you are as inflexible in your beliefs as a brick. I'm only making a point here because other, more mature folks may happen upon it and I want them to know how much of a mongoloid you are for coming into a UFO community just to fart out your brain-dead, parroted opinion for us all to ruminate in.
You make my point so eloquently. You take it as a matter of fact that Evolution exists, despite never actually validating this yourself. It is, in your eyes, ridiculous to think that it doesn't exist -- after all, you were taught that it does in school. But before the 19th century the theory of Evolution didn't even exist. Probably some speculated about it, but were not taken seriously. Yet you have fully accepted it without, as you say, seeing it.
Indeed, micro-evolution is quite fast because the rate of mutation is relatively high and generations are short. Macro-evolution is actually not generally well-understood by lay-people, primarily because it involves thinking on a scale that is so far outside of our short lifetimes. Not many people are capable of thinking on a scale outside of their own asses let alone across thousands of generations, hence the severe level of closed-mindedness in this thread alone...
You should take a step back and ask yourself why you're posturing like this.
Science in Default: Twenty-Two Years of Inadequate UFO Investigations | James E. McDonald, 1969
Some highlights:
The grave difficulty with essentially all past UFO studies has been that they were either devoid of any substantial scientific content, or else have lost their way amidst the relatively large noise-content that tends to obscure the real signal in the UFO reports. The presence of a percentually large number of reports of misidentified natural or technological phenomena (planets, meteors, and aircraft, above all) is not surprising, given all the circumstances surrounding the UFO problem. Yet such understandable and usually easily recognized instances of misidentification have all too often been seized upon as a sufficient explanation for all UFO reports, while the residue of far more significant reports (numbering now of order one thousand) are ignored.
In fact, the over-all public and scientific response to the UFO phenomena is itself a matter of substantial scientific interest, above all in its social-psychological aspects. Prior to my own investigations, I would
Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena: Implications on National Security, Public Safety, and Government Transparency
United States House Committee on Oversight and Accountability
I'll just include the important parts from the subreddit post:
The attached link will lead you directly to the House Oversight Committee's hearing page for the UAP hearing due at 10AM on July 26, 2023 - just under one week away. Link also below:
The subject of the hearing is listed as 'Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena: Implications on National Security, Public Safety, and Government Transparency'.
Linked on the page is the scheduled YouTube livestream link that is usual with House hearings. In case anyone runs into trouble accessing the government website, the direct link to the livestream is:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQ7Dw-739VY
To also note - previous hearings listed on the website show a list of witnesses brought forward during the hearing. This seems to only appear AFTER the hearing has concluded. Also attached, a
The UFO Reality - A History of Ridicule, Denial, Disinformation, and Secrecy | Vol. 1
I particularly appreciated the segment with Bill Nye.
In the face of “pressure” from Pentagon brass, NASA officials and other lawmakers, the co-chairs of the House UAP investigation are undeterred.
Congressman has grim take after access to UFO footage: 'We can't handle it' | Fox News
A Tennessee congressman warned the American public and Congress to take the issue of UFOs seriously because alien technology is unexplainable and powerful.
Not a fan of Faux News personally, but they certainly have a large audience so this is good to see.
Rep. Burchett: UFO hearing will happen by end of the month | Dan Abrams Live
Hopefully this isn't just another tease!
A Special Day
"Mankind...that word should have new meaning for all of us today. We can't be consumed by our petty differences anymore. We will be united in our common interests."
- President Thomas J. Whitmore, July 4th, 2006
Today is a special day, a day we will always remember; the day that all Americans -- and really the world -- came together, united. On this day, 27 years ago, we faced a threat unlike any other, and we overcame it.
I want to thank you all for being here, as we approach 1000 members, and to be grateful, and remember those who put their lives on the line. Many hail Cpt. Steven Hiller and David Levinson as the heroes who made our victory possible, but I urge you to remember also the brave souls like Russell Casse who lost their lives here, on Earth, while defending us.
I encourage you all to watch the documentary on these events, if you haven't already. You may find that it contains details and insights that you
Community Growth
Hey folks, I thought I should pop in and make a quick post given the surge in signups at lemmy and the rapidly growing subscriber number of this community.
First of all, when I created it I didn't really put any thought into the future, I just wanted to hear and talk about disclosure news. For that reason, I did not attempt to define any rules or guidelines. As it stands, with about 700 subscribers, we still don't have enough engagement to really be concerned about moderation. It also helps that most people seem to be fairly well-behaved on lemmy so far, but that may change soon as reddit refugees continue to flood in. If it becomes an issue I will define rules and gather moderators as needed.
Secondly, if you see posts in other UFO/UAP communities that are missing here, perhaps you would consider cross-posting them. I certainly miss plenty of things.
Finally, thank you to everyone who has been posting valuable content here! We are currently the top UFO community on the lemmyverse a
'I wouldn't call them a liar': Neighbor who lives near reported alien sighting | Banfield
More News Nation bits. I only post this one because I find it interesting how the story LVMPD tells keeps changing.
How does moderation of defederated communities work?
I still see posts from other instances on beehaw communities, and it makes me wonder: If those posts can't be seen by the mods, then is there simply no moderation possible for them (other than the instance owner, I guess)?
FAMILY WHO SAW "ALIEN CREATURES" WERE UNDER SURVEILLANCE BY LVMPD HOMELAND SECURITY DIVISION
Las Vegas family that reported aliens stands by original story | Banfield
I guess the LV family is still around after all.
Gun focused games
Is anyone else sick and tired of how many games these days are focused around gun fighting? IMO, FPS games haven't markedly improved since the original counter strike which I played as a CHILD. Frankly, I just wish we could all stop obsessing over guns and come up with something new.
EDIT: A good example right now is Starfield. Why is a game that is ostensibly about exploration and discovery so obsessed with guns? Let's be honest, the combat doesn't even look good. It's certainly not better gun combat than 90 percent of FPS games from the last decade. So it begs the question: Why have guns at all?
EDIT 2: I'm realizing I should have posted this in c/UnpopularOpinion
Put on your tin-foil hats and join c/UFOs!
This community is for discussion surrounding UFOs and Extraterrestrials.
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Family that reported aliens in backyard goes silent | Banfield
I'm pretty skeptical about the whole Las Vegas thing, but if it were being covered up then this is probably what it would look like.
Overview of the Disclosure Events
This wikipedia page has a good rundown of the events so far, for anyone who is catching up.
The David Grush Interview
This isn't the full interview as far as I understand it, but it's the best we have right now. Also, News Nation has removed the original video, so this may be worse quality. Pretty sus.
About this Community
I'm creating this community because there doesn't seem to be a place to talk about everything going on right now with Whistleblowers, and I think this is an important thing to be informed about.
I'll try to post links to any news or information if I can, and I hope you will too.
