In that way I don't thinknreason carries the day. You are finding a person who already had doubts and told them about options. Which is the story I hear most is that they had already not been emotionally fulfilled and then when a better path opened up they tried it.

You give a thirsty man water. You can't reason a person out of a position they didn't reason into. So you keep explaining it to them. However you have to explain it in terms they understand. My late father was a china fan because, "at least they kept thr globalists out" and you know what? Being right for the wrong reason is close enough for most people.

I dunno. I got through covid with simple non n95 maks. I think they were more effective than our intuition holds. I am not nit picking. I just think this is cool in an optimistic sense

Sectarianism is a psyop that worked. We have pretty conclusive evidence of this. Comunist orgs were infiltrated and hot takes and infighting because priorities. Anarchist organizing was infiltrated and anti-authoritarianism was prioritize. I am sure like the progressive liberals were infiltrated to for some reason.

So, when a tendency forms that cannot be infiltrated people will accept it gladly. We saw this in the 70s. Unfortunately they just went mask of and shot everyone involved. So there are two barriers to entry there. So when china opens a WPA for the American leg of the belt and road program is when we can see it work.