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Qualcomm abruptly cancels Snapdragon X Elite dev kit — refunds customers for mini PC, ends sales and support for the device immediately

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Qualcomm abruptly cancels Snapdragon X Elite dev kit — refunds customers for mini PC, ends sales and support for the device immediately

Qualcomm abruptly cancels Snapdragon X Elite dev kit — refunds customers for mini PC, ends sales and support for the device immediately
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Qualcomm abruptly cancels Snapdragon X Elite dev kit — refunds customers for mini PC, ends sales and support for the device immediately

Qualcomm abruptly cancels Snapdragon X Elite dev kit — refunds customers for mini PC, ends sales and support for the device immediately
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Qualcomm abruptly cancels Snapdragon X Elite dev kit — refunds customers for mini PC, ends sales and support for the device immediately

Qualcomm abruptly cancels Snapdragon X Elite dev kit — refunds customers for mini PC, ends sales and support for the device immediately
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  • To me it felt like previous Windows on ARM attempts: promised a lot, released with problems (mainly compatibility this time), then quickly forgotten because x86 chips caught up anyway.

    See you in 2-3 years!

    • Definitely had issues on first release, but a lot has improved since then without getting much coverage. Btw I wouldn't say that x86 has 'caught up' especially if your metric is power efficiency, not just raw power. Until we see a realistic RISC-V offering arm will likely remain king in that space.

      • I always hear power efficiency as an argument that ARM chips are magically better at, but Ryzen AI 300 and Intel Core Ultra 200V series seem to be very competitive with Qualcomm's offering. It's hard to compare 1:1 as the same chip in different laptops can be configured very differently in terms of TDP and power curves and the efficiency "sweet spots" aren't the same for all these different chips. Core Ultra 200V is also awaiting more thorough testing, but it seems to be right up there with the Snapdragon.

        I honestly found the Snapdragon X very underwhelming after all that marketing of how much better it was than Apple's M3 and Intel's and AMD's offerings. By the time the Snapdragon was actually available in end-user products, AMD's and Intel's competing generations were right around the corner and we've also seen a vastly improved M4 chip (although only in an iPad so far, so meh). Add to that the issues that you'll encounter because while Windows' x86 to ARM translation layer has certainly improved, it's nowhere near as seamless as what Apple did.

  • Just Qualcomm showing their customary hostility to developers.

    They’re resentful they had to produce dev kits in the first place, so delayed them until after other companies produced retail products.

  • Excuse my ignorance on arm situation on Windows, but this felt like same situation with third party arm sbc like Orange Pis and rockchip... In Orange Pi 5 and rockship as soon as community develop some stuff on their own, the developer stop providing assistance and pretty much abandon software support and to this day RK3588s (the soc used on OPi 5 and several other sbc) haven't got Vulkan support meanwhile Raspberry Pi 5 got its VK support 2 weeks after device public release which is shame for rockchip.

    I wish Qualcomm competent enough to realise bringing software support boosts the hardware longevity as much as Apple did with their ecosystem which provide both software and hardware supports to make their chips runs at its maximum potential.

    • A lot of the cheap tablet SoC vendors like Rockchip (whose SoCs end up in low cost SBCs) really only do the bare minimum when it comes to proper linux support. There's usually next to no effort to upstreaming their patches so oftentimes you're stuck on their vendor kernel. Luckily for the RK3588(S), Collabora has done a considerable amount of work on supporting the SoC and its peripherals upstream. I run my Orange Pi 5 Plus (RK3588) on a mainline kernel and it works for my needs.

      This practice is a lot easier to defend for a low cost SoC compared to something as expensive as a Snapdragon Elite though...

      • Hey fellow opi 5 owner! iirc some ppl back then managed to run newer ubuntu rk3588 aswell but what makes me quit was the gpu support (Rockchip's android image have better driver performance and linux neglected which sucks). Also saw that collabora and panfrost stuff but I moved back to x86 mini pc bcuz I need gpu stuff, thought to repurposing them as media server & emulator setup but didn't worked with linux.

        Owned orange pi 5 back then for college project, their NPU really packs a punch but sadly the good story ends there. After finished the project sold mine to friend who need them for computer vision and NN stuffs.

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