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How Communist Revolutions are created

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How Communist Revolutions are created

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  • Vanguardist?

    Cringe

    • All revolutions will have an advanced, middle, and backwards selection of the population. Whether this advanced section is formalized into a party and thus democratized and organized, or left to form naturally, opaquely, and without accountability, the advanced segment will exist regardless. We can see throughout history that it is far more effective to formalize this segment to make it accountable than to let power structures form based on friendships and cliques.

      I recommend reading The Tyranny of Structurelessness. The Vanguard model has consistently been proven to be the most effective means to wage revolution.

    • Unlike all the communist revolutions which succeeded without vanguard party? The grand total of zero of those suggest that not having vanguard party is way worse than just cringe.

      • This is like defending early flying machines with flapping wings.

      • Just because something is initially successful doesn't mean it's necessarily correct, and I'm saying that as a proponent of a vanguard party or similar form of centralized organization, given how it's a necessity post-revolution.

        USSR's revolution was successful thanks to the Bolshevik Party, but after a while it was clear that the party had replaced the proletariat as the ruling class and instead had started to direct/rule over the workers (in order words, the party became Substitutionist). Later on, the party had fully succumbed to revisionism and eventual collapse. Similar thing happened to China, and even though the party didn't disappear, it's without a question a bourgeoisie party and you'd need insane amount of misinterpretation of Marxist theory to claim otherwise.

        For other revolutions like in Cuba or Vietnam, even though the same thing applies right from the get-go (given how Stalin is a revisionist), one could argue that they weren't Marxist revolutions, but rather part of anti-colonial wave of the 20th century that's more in the ballpark of "bourgeois-nationalist revolution". Vietnam's Ho Chi Minh was particularly explicit about this.

        And to go back to the first point I made, a fun example that would push this kind of logic would be what's happening to US right now - Trump has successfully gone into power twice now, it doesn't automatically mean that his success means that he and his policies are correct.

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