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julian

@ julian @community.nodebb.org

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Co-Founder (NodeBB) | Husband 🤷‍♂️ and Dad 🙉 to three | Rock Climber 🧗‍♂️ | Foodie 🥙 | Conductor 🎵 | Saxophonist 🎷

✅ Small teams craft better code.🇨🇦 Made in Canada🗨️ Federating NodeBB with funding from NLNet ♥️🇪🇺

  • Ideas for Federation

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  • projectmoon@forum.agnos.is I will 100% be working on addressing all three of those use cases.

    1. I'll rework it into my cross-posting functionality
    2. Relay support is on the list (awaiting NLNet funding)
    3. Auto cross-posting perhaps? (If uncategorized, it would just categorize it)

  • FediDB Onboarding 🚀 : "Introducing Welcome, a new fediverse onboarding experience powered by FediDB."

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  • FediDB Onboarding 🚀 : "Introducing Welcome, a new fediverse onboarding experience powered by FediDB."

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  • Updates to the world page

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  • @projectmoon@forum.agnos.is said in Updates to the world page: > > > Also, are there plans to merge the federation synchronization and new remote category following stuff together into one cohesive set of functionality?

    Yes... the remote category functionality supercedes the category sync functionality in some ways, but there is still a use case for it.

    Most likely I will need to develop proper support for cross-posting (at least locally), and that would work well with the remote category functionality, so that topics are cross-posted to the synchronized category, instead of moved.

  • Updates to the world page

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  • That's correct, that category wasn't federating, but it is now :+1:

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  • Were there other categories breaking?

  • What should the subset of the Fediverse that is Lemmy + Mbin + PieFed be called?

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  • @iso@lemy.lol what's a "lemmy-like" PM :laughing: I think this explains why I can't log into the site.

  • What would cross-posting between instances look like in ActivityPub?

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  • @ludrol@szmer.info yes, you're right about that. The silver lining here is that we're at a point where the major players' implementations are local-only, so we don't have to work around with a pre-existing implementation and ensure compatibility.

    The second point is that a "cross-post" could have multiple meanings, including manually creating a new post about a link already present in multiple communities. What I'm hoping to describe is a common way that items can be cross-posted natively between instances, while hopefully preserving their reply-trees.

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  • @projectmoon@forum.agnos.is thanks, can you try again? For whatever reason the handle-to-cid association was lost, and I'm not sure why. I've manually restored it now.

  • Post flair in PieFed

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  • I think the FEP process is overly complicated for what it is, but it's definitely helpful if you have multiple implementors on board.

    The easiest (but least accessible) solution is to document something on your own site, but that lacks the social proof that a finalized FEP has.

    Just some food for thought 🙂 I'm looking to create an FEP for cross posting and would love to get the entire threadiverse dev community involved.

  • Post flair in PieFed

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  • @rimu@piefed.social interesting, how does this differ from tags?

    Edit: I see the other post you made. I'm interested in this but hoping you'll write up an FEP for this so it is more easily implemented by others.

  • What should the subset of the Fediverse that is Lemmy + Mbin + PieFed be called?

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  • @melroy@kbin.melroy.org NodeBB here, agreed.

    It really is the most succinct nickname to describe the type of software we are... and I feel that outweighs possible association with Threads.

  • Updates to the world page

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  • @projectmoon@forum.agnos.is no, that didn't matter. There is no concept of nested categories in ActivityPub yet.

    But the issue seems legitimate, I can't access the ActivityPub category from a test Mastodon server either.

  • Live testing of remote categories

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  • @pfefferle@mastodon.social just wanted to poke you about this issue again.

    The latest updates to NodeBB now do a webfinger backcheck to ensure that the actor has a valid webfinger entry for their purported handle. If it does not, then the user is not properly created. Mastodon also does this. This check is probably for security as well as for preventing handle collisions.

    The multilingual plugin in conjunction with the ActivityPub plugin creates users that share the same handle, and that causes issues with federated content.

    For example, this article by @jonvt@vivaldi.com will load up just fine in Mastodon, but this japanese article by @akira@vivaldi.com will not, because that second article's attributedTo is https://vivaldi.com/ja/?author=176, which fails that check (the author's ID is actually https://vivaldi.com/?author=176 as per the handle backcheck)

    cc @AltCode

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  • Bit of a thought experiment here as to how to handle these duplicate accounts.

    (tl;dr two federated accounts with different IDs report the same webfinger handle, what do?)

    Let's say @ruario@social.vivaldi.net posts an English article under his account (and then is federated), and posts a translated Japanese one that is also federated, but under the Japanese ID.

    What should NodeBB do when encountering the latter? Currently, it will try to assert the actor, fail the webfinger backreference check, and probably drop the post. Not so good.

    One could adjust the actor to the former (canonical ID), but that's not technically right either.

    That also opens up potential account impersonation possibilities, so that is something that would need addressing as well.

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  • @projectmoon@forum.agnos.is hmm... could be a bug in the user migration code path.

    Can you run your forum in dev mode (./nodebb dev) and try to load some of the categories here in your forum, and let me know if you see any errors in the console?

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  • Right now you're able to add remote categories to your world page. It's possible that we could allow admins to add remote categories to the forum index, although that'd be something we add later on.

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  • I just realized that while we now have the ability to browse and follow remote communities, we don't have a page listing communities ordered by popularity or recency... time to add to my ever expanding list 😩

  • Are Flipboard collections(?) AP groups?

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  • @jsonculverhouse@flipboard.social yes, that's right.

    If a Flipboard post is organized within magazines, then including the magazine in the cc will allow recipient software to correctly slot the post with the magazine.

    So not only would it fix the issue for NodeBB, it'd also fix it for Lemmy, PieFed, Mbin, etc.