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Oh wow, I guess this conspiracy has gone on for about 80 years now because they must have faked all the newsreel footage of buildings collapsing from fire bombings during the blitz. There's plenty of examples of buildings collapsing to the fire, also has ever occurred to you that maybe, just maybe, having a Boeing 767 crash into the side of the building might have caused just a bit of damage.

9/11 conspiracy theorists are so desperate to prove that 9/11 was a masterful plan by the government that only they have figured out that they can't even use Occam's razor.

Why did building seven collapse? Because I had two of the world's tallest buildings collapsed right next to it. It's not that hard.

Jet fuel can't melt steel beams? Well it's a miracle then that the plane hit the only floors in the building with no flammable material inside. Everyone in there was just butt naked on asbestos floors. And there was definitely no gas line going up to the top floor for the restaurant there. Also, can we just talk about the elephant in the room, the fact that getting hit by a 767 going full tilt would cause a lot of damage?

"Oh but what about the 1945 empire state crash?" A B-25 lost in the fog is a lot slower and a lot smaller than a 767. I can think of several plane crashes where a plane crashes into a building, only four of them involved a controlled flight into the building at full tilt. Three of them are on 9/11, the fourth one was a guy copying 9/11 in a Cessna.

"Oh but what about the puffs of smoke that were clearly demolition rounds?" Yeah if only there was a reason that puffs of dust and air would pop out the windows like that, maybe something like the floors coming down very quickly?

But do you want to hear a couple of conspiracy theories?

The American government knew that 9/11 was going to happen and sat on their hands to let it happen so they could pass Draconian laws to roll back freedoms and rights and give them the excuse to go into places like Afghanistan and Iraq.
The agencies that you think are hypercompetent sociopaths with special technology but letting them do a false flag attack are not actually hypercompetent and dropped the ball so badly that over 3,000 people died.

Both of those conspiracy theories are just as enraging and dare I even say even more likely then the US government orchestrating 911 like a villain in a marvel movie. If you think the US government is hyper competent and in control of everything, let me remind you that during the biggest crisis of this decade, the president of the United States on live camera suggested that people should inject themselves of bleach to kill covid.

Sometimes you just need to take Occam's razor to a conspiracy theory. And if you think that a plane crashing into something couldn't cause structural damage severe enough to cause a building to collapse, go look up the aftermath of Lockerbie, or any plane crash featuring buildings.

And if you're going to look at me right in the eye and tell me that having two of the world's biggest buildings collapse right next to a building would not cause structural damage to said building, I think you need to touch grass because that's Hobbyless behaviour.

Basically. Buildings don't fall like Jenga bricks. When something bad happens, they tend to implode, be it on purpose, if an airliner crashes into them, or if the aforementioned building collapses next to you and causes you structural damage.

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I know, and you don't need to point to Operation Northwoods to "prove" anything because American Government officials have proposed much worse things and have done much worse things.

Like MacArthur proposed using nukes like conventional bombs to completely irradiate the Korean - Chinese Border. This would not merely kill Millions, perhaps billions, but it would cause a nuclear winter. For that, MacArthur was dismissed. That was a proposal.

What people forget is that MacArthur fired upon American World War One vets protesting to get their War bonuses because of the depression during the Bonus War. You don't need to make up conspiracies, what governments have already done/doing are bad enough.

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I agree with almost all this list, but Building 7 pisses me off a bit

WhY dId BuIlDiNg 7 cOlLaPsE?

Because two of the tallest buildings in the world collapsed right next to it, causing structural damage that lead to it's collapse.

BuT iT lOoKs LiKe A DeMoLiTiOn.

What do you think structural failure is meant to look like? Do you think it's meant to look like Jenga bricks falling over? Like do you really think two of the largest buildings in the world collapsing next to a comparatively small building like that is going to do nothing?

The reason why you don't see surrounding buildings damaged when they're demolishing something like a British Tower-block is because they time the explosions precisely, shore up anything that might get damaged and evacuate the area. Do you really think the same thing would happen if two of the world's largest towers had their floors slam down on each other like a squeezebox, and then had the cores collapse right next to them? Do you, hand on heart, think a building right next to that happening, wouldn't suffer structural damage?

Wanna know something about 9/11? If the US government wanted to do a false flag, they wouldn't fucking bother doing some long winded scheme involving thermite or explosives or missiles disguised perfectly as planes that can be debunked by people who think Occam is a razor company. They would just like whatever of the 101 major terror plots that are being planned against the US that they know about happen. Why spend millions of dollars doing it yourself when you can just fucking let the guy in Afghanistan and his buddies that you have been watching for a decade and change do what they have been planning.

That, or, and this is something people might not consider, as cruel, power hungry, and sociopathic as the world's governments may be, they are also made up of people, some of those people fuck up, some of those people are morons. The idea that the everpresent They, (The Enby that controls the world) is hypercompetant and hyperintelegent is just something people believe to feel safer when they trust the government, and more powerful when they don't.

Oh fuck

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Isn't Altman Gay?

The (un)holy trinity of rabbit holes for me are Wikipedia, maps.nls.uk, and trove.

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Knew someone who dressed in posh trousers, a waistcoat, and a posh shirt and smoked a pipe (outside school, of course).

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I dont think falling down Wikipedia rabbit holes is a gendered thing. Wikipedia is just like that.

They're really not escaping the fascist accusations.

Yeah but you see making transgender people miserable and keeping them out of general society is the goal of the anti trans movement. They don't want transgender people to have fun, or socialise, or be happy.

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An AR-15 is cheaper than RAM? Well it's time to seize the means of computation.

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