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  • Now that we've gotten what we wanted (seeing him get his ass beat in a real fight), I hope the world forgets him quickly and permanently.

    He has contributed nothing of value to the world and deserves no more of our attention or money.

  • Me, neither. But calling him out is still "engagement" in the platform's eyes.

    They don't care whether it was positive or negative, as long as they can sell it to advertisers, shareholders, and data brokers.

  • Great, this will be my last comment, too.

    Many of these fixed fight accusations come from people with little to no experience boxing, but who will claim with so much unearned confidence how "obvious" it is.

    It is possible that Tyson threw the match. I'll give that oxygen to people with the experience to know what they're talking about.

    More importantly, these accusations fall into an even bigger trap: giving Jake Paul attention.

    Jake Paul built up a string of wins against fighters who weren't boxers, boxers with inflated win/loss records, and boxers who have been retired for years.

    Every claim that a fighter is "obviously" throwing against him fed the metrics. It creates hate watchers who want to see him get beat in the next fight. It tells the networks, this makes money.

    If we had collectively recognized the trap, stopped shouting "rigged!" and signaling how much we wanted a next match, a "real" match, Jake Paul wouldn't have been able to ride the hate-hype train to a $100M+ payout for a broken jaw.

  • I agree that the (primary) problem is the state.

    We're talking about surveillance in the context of a surveillance empire, not just cops having bodycams (that they they can turn off at will).

    Surveillance at scale is like giving a chronic pain patient a freezer full of fentanyl.

    With perfect discipline, it's not a problem. It's effective pain medication that they'll only use when they need it.

    They will always find excuses to "need" it.

    After all, why not?

  • from the old days

    That's the point. Those were the old days.

    At, 58 Tyson was a whisper of the fighter he used to be. He now uses is a walking stick. He now spends more time podcasting than he does fighting. A Mike Tyson who had to cancel the initial bout due to a stomach ulcer. And this is the man who was sold to the public as a legitimate challenger to Paul. After a spirited first round, every second of Tyson's 40 years of damage can be seen etched into his movements; exhausted, he chases Paul around the ring. In the sixth round, he throws just seven punches, the fight ending in a unanimous landslide decision for Paul. The same accusations of a fixed fight flood the internet with people (whom I'm guessing have no experience boxing) interpreting moments like Mike Tyson not falling for obvious bait as proof of collusion. And then there's the script. But the only thing the script actually got right was the first round, which was just how Tyson always fights versus how Paul always fights. And it actually got the ending wrong - calling a Paul KO victory in round five but I guess people didn't read that far. The complaints of a fixed fight are so intense that an official statement is released declaring the fight not scripted, and in doing so perfectly priming the Jake Paul cycle to start all over again. But the thing is, if you know how the Jake Paul Cycle works this fight was easy to predict, as it's the same manipulation of public perception we've been talking about this entire video. And I can say that because I did predict it months before it happened on stream. What Jake Paul does is he just challenges old retired fighters who are like either not trained in boxing or have been not boxing four years.

    I think there's two reasons people so badly want to believe that this fight was fixed and the first is simple: people don't like Jake Paul. But the second is more complicated as I mentioned one of the things I really struggle to understand and make this video is how so many people judge the fight as hard to predict when, to me, there was only ever going to be one outcome. And I don't know that much about boxing and I think a part of that was Tyson's aura and the impact he'd had on the sport but I think there's also a deeper reason. Watching a decrepit aged Mike Tyson lose a boxing match to a social media influencer is about as devastating a statement you can make on the effect age has on our mortal frames. The most brutal reinforcement possible that the ultimate unbeatable and undisputed opponent we must all face one day is time. And that's not just hard to accept it's devastating and a big reason why I think so many people would rather engage in conspiracy. But sometimes there is no conspiracy. Sometimes things are just the way they are and it sucks.

  • This is how people justify surveillance states.

    What you actually get is "accountability for thee, none for me", because people with power get to turn the cameras off whenever they want.

    Just look at !Epsteinfiles@lemmy.world to see how easy for people with money and power to [REDACTED].

    We don't need (state) surveillance (on citizens).

    We need (citizen) surveillance (on the the state).

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