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I can't do this anymore. I'm just not strong enough to keep reading such stupid takes.

https://lemmy.world/post/6510525

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✅ Western chauvinism
✅ Apathy
✅ Infantilization
Westoids never fail to disappoint. The liberalism on Lemmy has hit all time high. I'm so tired.
- White man's burden is still the western foreign policy. Never changed.
- ✅ Western chauvinism
  ✅ Apathy
  ✅ Infantilization
  Justin Roiland brain. Not even once.

The good news about posts like this is that they make me appreciate
a lot.

I'm just exhausted. "Unlike you, I believe the cop at my school is human." "I just can't endorse the use of violence." "We can't win anything if we're mean to people." "Hatred never got us anywhere."
Oh, where were you when all of the oppression was happening?
"I didn't agree with that, either."
Didn't think to smugly chide those in power, though, now did you? Because that's inevitable, but our response is unjustified escalation . . .

This site is the only place I can look at news and politics discussion without feeling like I am completely insane

100% this guy does some retail or email/excel/IT office job. Why are they speaking like they have any influence on American foreign policy lmao

I didn't used to understand foreign involvement in wars. I still don't understand but I used to not understand too.

AHHHHHHHHHHHH MAKE IT STOOOOOOOOP
- You cannot convince me this is not a child. This is baby's first reddit atheist moment (and I say this as a reddit atheist).
  
  Did the Rathiests ever actually read the fairytales they mocked?
  
  The Reddit-brained preoccupation with "adults" magically showing up to solve problems and the problem makers being seen as "infants" does speak of immaturity, but that immaturity can sometimes last a lifetime, especially with the "my old man kicked my ass and I turned out FINE"
  crowd.
- The most Reddit comment to ever exist. Only missing a porn reference and the word "bacon" in there.
  
  I have such things to show you
- "why not just deploy some dual faithed Messiah figurehead"
  He's actually asking for CIA Jesus?
  
  "Why don't we just trick all the simple minded brown people with a shiny new religion?"
  Gee I wonder why Americans have a global reputation as being somehow both condescending and self righteous and simultaneously dumber than dogshit.
- I blame Dune for injecting this idea into Liberal minds
  
  Except in dune it was a hundred years long project done by a powerful cabal with magical powers.
  And the messiah had literally all the best magical powers.
  
  It certainly sharpened the edge on their pizza cutter of a pointless take. I'm a Dune enjoyer and it fucking sucks when people derive bad ideas from it.
- Have they considered just not believing in a freaking sky wizard, since that's all this conflict is really about?
  I took a look at their profile, and found casual ableism and misanthropy, the
  runs deep.

this is one of the propaganda lines that westerners have been fed about the war. some of the ones I can think of:
this war has been going on forever
this is a religious conflict
it's extremely complicated and nuanced~
for each one of these, the conclusion is "well, we can't really do anything about it, it's unsolvable". in reality, any reading of the history tells you that it hasn't been going on all that long, it has next to nothing to do with religion, and it's not complicated. Israel is clearly in the wrong, and there is a clear way to end the conflict practically overnight.
- Yep, blew my mind when I realized the people who were saying "it's a thousand year old religious conflict, an eternal battle between jews and muslims" were 100% full of shit. Israel was invented after WW2 and is a pretty clear cut colony and occupier. It's so simple it's hilarious, Israel is completely illegal and illegitimate
- Israel is in the wrong but I don't think there's a way to end it overnight
  
  the US is basically the only country that provides diplomatic cover for Israel, every other country in the world is sick of their shit (as witnessed by endless UN resolutions). end all aid to them, end all diplomatic cover, sanction them into oblivion, and I guarantee you the occupation is over within a week.
  
  Isolate Israel diplomatically, cut off their funding from Europe/America and watch them slowly dissolve as the military breaks down and most of the population moves back to their original nations of origin.
- The incredible thing is that one of the first results for the conflict is an article from the liberal media outlet Vox which calls all three of those talking points a myth

We're reaching levels of liberal condescension that shouldn't even be possible

Unironic White Man's Burden shit
- These Childlike Natives just cannot be trusted with the dehumanizing and oppressive social order that we graciously designed for them!

this is a certified
moment

Is that person American? Do they really think of a country born out of genocide just a few hundred years ago is more "adult" than the cradle of civilization itself, continually occupied by humanity since beyond memory, which has seen the rise and fall of countless nations and empires
- Do they really think of a country born out of genocide just a few hundred years ago is more "adult" than the cradle of civilization itself, continually occupied by humanity since beyond memory, which has seen the rise and fall of countless nations and empires
  They do, because to them "history is bunk" and even if it isn't, this time around there are Wunderwaffen and the internet which makes the tides of history irrelevant, so they believe.

DAE le adults in the room?

i didnt used to understand foreign involvement …
hey everyone the war understander has logged on.

"adults interfering" is how isn'treal was formed

This imaginary of the non-European world as inherently stationary and needing to be dragged [by the West] into civilisation kicking and screaming naturally gravitated towards biological explanations of power relations. Within this context, invocations of [...] infantilising tropes were not just distasteful transgressions or individual eccentricities, but rather a way of justifying the imposition and monitoring of a wide range of juridical practices of domination and disciplining.
Ntina Tzouvala, from “Capitalism as Civilisation.”
- I was readying a whole rant and your quote covered all my points succinctly. But I want to feel like I'm part of the discussion so I'll just regurgitate relevant stuff from media I enjoy
  "Centrism isn't change -- not even incremental change. It is control. Over yourself and the world. Exercise it. Look up at the sky, at the dark shapes of Coalition airships hanging there. Ask yourself: is there something sinister in moralism? And then answer: no. God is in his heaven. Everything is normal on Earth."

That post has to be by a child.

I didn’t used to understand foreign involvement in wars
But I can see why after watching this Israeli Palestine Conflict since birth.
Do adults need to intervene to quell the infants?
First of all, that's racist as fuck. Second of all, are they saying what I think they are?
- Liberals are back to 2001 era "glass the desert" rhetoric.
- He was a very unusual toddler
- look they're a reasonable person they just think the proper response to being upset by a news story is to kill everyone involved
- Assuming OP is American, it’s likely that he wants to literally kill infants.

🤮

Adults need to intervene to take away that person's internet.

That first sentence is a real brain-melter
- I didn't used to understand foreign involvement in wars. I still don't, but I didn't used to, too.

"yeah, i've been paying attention to this conflict pretty much since i was born. don't think anything important happened with it before i was born so that's pretty much enough for me to comment on it."

bro just smoke a bone and mellow

Do adults need to intervene to quell the infants?
with implications of lethal retaliation against what they call infants. Reddit brain, not even once.

Its physically painful that most people think like this. Then they point fingers and say that other countries use propaganda and their citizens are clueless about reality.

Except in this analogy somebody came into your sandbox, drew a little circle and said that's yours and the rest is mine, keeps knocking down the sandcastle you built in your circle for several decades and then when you got mad and knocked down one of his once your parents kill you.

While my partner didn't have a brain dead take like this, I did have to give them a thorough explanation earlier on why the Israeli occupation is unacceptable and always will be until the settlement is removed. My partner is aware of some terrible policies and why those policies shouldn't exist, but hegemonic diasporas simply aren't on their radar. I'm just glad they're receptive and try to understand rather than falling prey for dumb hot takes like the screenshot above.

Papa US is coming to teach you a leason

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