US: House Democrats formally file discharge petition to force vote on Senate Ukraine aid package

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https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/house-discharge-petition-ukraine-israel-aid/

The Democratic discharge petition would require 218 signatures to force a vote on the aid package on the House floor.

This means that the Democrats would need some number of Republicans to sign the petition, because they will lose some of their own votes because the Senate aid package includes aid to Israel.

Republican bastards have filed a competing discharge petition without humanitarian aid, that even if passed would delay aid by weeks or months if it passes.

I suspect that the Republican measure contains Lizard People aid.

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Imagine not voting to support Ukraine because of, get this, Israel. Weird fucking world.
- Under normal circumstances, sure. But when the support is specifically for weapons being used to massacre women and children in Gaza, then it becomes tough to swallow.

In 20 years, people will be wondering why the media didn't talk more about the R's being in bed with Russia.
- Depends on who wins the future. They'll control the past.
  
  @sinfreefor00days @pelespirit
  That is what they are trying to do per Orwell.
  The scary truth is that nobody controls the present. It is just chaos created by rival factions trying to gain control.
- In 20 years that will be a thought crime. You have been selected the retroactive reeducation by RokoCo's Basilisk division.

ReQs: We want everything!
Dems: fine, here’s everything. Now let’s support Ukraine.
ReQs: . . . No! I don’t want it now!

Why is it that that aid for different countries and different causes, with different political interests, are all bundled into the same bill? Why can't aid for each destination have its own individual bill? I've never seen any media present this question nor make any attempt at explaining why.
- To increase support obviously. The theory is that GOP representatives will vote for this bill saying they helped Israel, whereas Dems can say they are helping Ukraine (of course there are also local issues in e.g. districts with many Jewish voters). The 2-party system in combination with local representation means that bundling bills is the only way to ever pass anything.
  
  bundling bills is the only way to ever pass anything
  That seems like a bit of a stretch. There seems to be very strong cross-party support for Ukraine aid. I don't see why that wouldn't pass in its own individual bill.

Watch it with that lizard people thing around anything involving Jews.
It is one of those old Jewish myths.
If I could find where someone explained it, I would link it, but I really don’t care enough to look, might even be wrong, just thought I would give the heads up

Update: 177 signatures so far.
https://clerk.house.gov/DischargePetition/2024031209?CongressNum=118

@zabadoh Why not give the US some of the 300 billion of confiscated Russian assets to help provide more of the right weapons to Ukraine.

Update 2024-03-21: 188 House members have now signed the Democratic petition that mirrors the Senate aid bill that was passed months ago.
The first Republican to sign the petition, Ken Buck signed today, but he's retiring from Congress the next day, Friday 3/22
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/4548713-ken-buck-becomes-first-republican-to-sign-democrats-discharge-petition-for-ukraine-aid/

This is the best summary I could come up with:
Democrats are using a rarely successful legislative maneuver called a discharge petition to try to bypass Republican leaders.
Democrats, who hold 213 seats in the lower chamber, would need Republicans to sign the petition because they are likely to lose the support of progressives over the inclusion of Israel aid.
"What we're asking our colleagues — Democrats and Republicans — is to sign the discharge petition that will bring to the floor the Senate national security bipartisan supplemental.
That is the fastest and easiest way to solve this issue," House Democratic Caucus Chairman Pete Aguilar of California said Tuesday during his weekly news conference.
But the Democrats' discharge petition faces a competing effort from Rep. Brian Fitzpatrick, a Republican from Pennsylvania who co-chairs the moderate and bipartisan Problem Solvers Caucus.
Fitzpatrick has introduced a smaller bipartisan foreign aid bill that includes border security measures.
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genocide is expensive, whether its comin or goin eh
- @originalucifer @zabadoh
  "Atrocity is recognized as such by victim and predator alike, by all who learn about it at whatever remove. Atrocity has no excuses, no mitigating argument. Atrocity never balances or rectifies the past. Atrocity merely arms the future for more atrocity. It is self-perpetuating upon itself — a barbarous form of incest. Whoever commits atrocity also commits those future atrocities thus bred."

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