How Trump backed away from promising to end the Russia-Ukraine war in 24 hours
During his campaign, Donald Trump said repeatedly that he would be able to end the war between Russia and Ukraine “in 24 hours” upon taking office.
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the reason trump is flipping on this is probably because it's beneficial for the US to keep Europe bogged down with the war in Ukraine, especially now that theyre looking to pressure Europe into their dumbfuck tradewar with China
I like how Hexbear gets all bent out of shape whenever anyone comes to Hexbear to engage in "trolling" (meaning any point of view that violates the monoculture), and use it to justify shit pictures and death threats and all that kind of fun stuff. And then, also, they come to the normal people's comment threads and do... this.
I’m on an instance that’s federated with hexbear and I’ve just not really seen anything like that happen. Y’all on Lemmy.world and such blew hex bears way out of proportion.
Lmao the mod removal reason on that comment is
You can't see what I'm saying anymore, I don't think. But for the record that was a Hexbear admin doing behind-the-scenes fuckery, it wasn't a moderator.
Here's what they said to me when I participated on their instance:
The only thing I’m predicting that I’m meeting your mind with is an icepick
i am wishing death and suffering upon you. I hope your life gets materially worse. I hope you get leprosy. I hope you get stabbed. I hope you get long covid. I hope you hang for your collaborationist ways and I hope the hangman fucks up so it’s painful
you get to climb to the top of a very tall building and yeet yourself into the void
Death threat
And I wasn't even saying that a brutal invasion with rape, child-killing, torture, and of course the bombing and killing of all kinds of civilians including aid workers was the fault of the people being invaded. You know what my sin was? I said Trump was going to be dangerous for them. Also I was pretty sarcastic and condescending about it, I won't lie, because I can't give respect or take them seriously in any capacity when they say the things that they say. But regardless of the condescension, that was what I was saying.
They also sent me a bunch of pictures which I don't think I need to post here.
So you’re telling me you went to an online community with the express intention of being a dick to them and you’re surprised that they were rude to you? First time on the internet, son?
If by "being a dick to them," you mean disagreeing with them, and by "rude" you mean death threats, then yes. In that case, you have it exactly right.
Death threats and shit pictures as a tool of political discussion are actually pretty rare on most parts of the internet once you get above the 13-year-old level. On some parts they are super common, but mostly those parts aren't taken super seriously on the rest of it.
My point was that they're setting up all kinds of whining about people "being a dick" to them in their own space, while feeling free to wander into other people's spaces and pollute them with whatever type of dickery they want, including approval for the killing of their enemies (both in Ukraine and on Lemmy). And that's ironic. That was my point.
Well it sounds from your definition like you were being the antagonistic one but whatever.
what exactly are you whining about? their comment was utterly devoid of anything even the biggest crybaby could describe as trolling
I am whining about coming into this thread en masse and hoping to browbeat everyone into letting them express the "it's only rape because you resist" viewpoint on the Ukraine war. It's not trolling, exactly, but it's sure not what a person with a legitimate point of view would do to promote the view either.
They don't really try to defend their things they're saying. They're not interested in answering questions, talking about it. They are interested in inflaming the discussion, coming in a gang to all yell the same things in an aggressive fashion to the point that it becomes distasteful to most people and they can invite some conduct in kind from the "other side" so it sort of becomes a "both sides" mess instead of just them being wrong about it.
I could just ignore it but I feel like that's not the way. I don't really feel like ceding the narrative space to them even if 99% of the people reading understand that they're full of shit about it. I think most people have just moved on from wanting to engage with it.
